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New 20 Cent Coin Commemorating Lost Soldiers Of Fromelles

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a friend in the media passed me this press release:

"MEDIA RELEASE
Senator Nick Sherry - Assistant Treasurer
Alan Griffin MP - Minister for Veterans' Affairs

NEW COIN HONOURS LOST SOLDIERS OF FROMELLES

The Assistant Treasurer, Senator Nick Sherry, and the Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Alan Griffin, have today announced the Royal Australian Mint will next month issue a collectible 20 cent coin commemorating Australia 's Lost Soldiers of Fromelles.

"This coin is a continuation of the Mint's Australia Remembers series, exploring our nation's war experiences and military history behind and beyond the battlefields," the Assistant Treasurer said.

"The coin design is based on the Cobbers statue which stands in the Australian Memorial Park at Fromelles."

"The design features a circle enclosing an artist's impression of the Cobbers statue and, to the right, the inscription '20'."

"Outside of the circle are the inscriptions 'Australia Remembers' and 'Lost Soldiers of Fromelles'," the Assistant Treasurer said.

The Cobbers statue by Melbourne sculptor Peter Corlett was unveiled at the former battlefield in France in 1998 and a replica is installed at the Shrine of Remembrance in Melbourne .

"The battle of Fromelles on 19 July 1916 was the bloodiest day in Australian military history, with more than 1300 Australians soldiers killed and over 4000 wounded," the Minister for Veterans' Affairs, Alan Griffin, said.

"The fallen of Fromelles have no known grave and a joint Australian/British Identification Board has now begun examining evidence to identify the remains of 250 soldiers recovered from the mass grave."

"The Board is trying to match the remains of the World War One diggers with DNA samples collected from descendants," Mr Griffin said.

The Royal Australian Mint's 2010 Australia Remembers project was completed with the association of the Australian Fromelles Project Group and the Office of Australian War Graves.

The first coin in the Australia Remembers series honoured Australian Service Nurses.

The Fromelles collectible coin will be available from 1 April 2010.

CANBERRA
15 March 2010"
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I have e-mailed the Assistant Treasurer's Office, posing the following questions -
"G'day, will any of these coins be released into circulation ?
if not, why not ?
if yes, how many, please ?"

I'll update this thread with any response that may be forthcoming.

I haven't seen the "Cobbers statue", but the following link contains some information about the sculptor, and includes a pic of the Cobbers statue -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Corlett

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it annoys me that so many "commemoratives" are in fact just an excuse to market NCLT at ridiculous prices. The whole point of "commemoratives", I would think, is to get them into the hands of the general public, and thereby to promote some discussion, particularly among the younger children.

Peter in Darwin

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Sorry to disappoint you Peter, but I believe this coin is part of the 'Inspirational Australians' series. The same as the nurse's 20c, as such it will be NCLT only.
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It is actually the Australia Remembers series, not Inspirational Australians. See? Way too much NCLT, it is too hard to keep up with it all.
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I don't normally collect NCLT. In my opinion, CLM (Coin-Like Medals) would be the same thing. I am annoyed too. To me, a 'coin' was/is intended for circulation, and that is what I collect. As an extension to that, I will collect errors and varieties, proofs and patterns of those coins. My collection extends from the invention of coins, and of all countries, up to the mid '60s, when silver was withdrawn from world coinage. That is how I conveniently avoid the problem (mostly) of avoiding NCLT. I say mostly, because I do have things like a 1937 GB gold set.
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I feel pretty much the same way. I don't have much NCLT and most of what I do have was given to me as gifts. However, it seems to bring a lot of people into the hobby, so that can only be a good thing.
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latman 100: I must agree with you that NCLT can bring people into the hobby, but unfortunately a lot of those initially buy NCLT with an idea that their bargain would have investment potential, and are disappointed when they try to sell, when they look like getting much less money or even loosing heavily, and end up loosing interest in the hobby. The main reason that NCLT exists is, that it is a business opportunity for a mint to earn significant extra income. The same also applies to coin dealers, If they don't survive, the hobby would be much poorer for it, and the hobby would also loose much professional expertise.

It's just that I tend to share the disappointment of those who have NCLT and so I have little interest in it. Almost every numismatic item that I could make great profit on if I sold it was NEVER bought in the first place with the intention of profit. For example, my first ancient was a rather nice denarius which I bought for $4.50 in 1968, and would now you would have to pay perhaps $150 for it, I used to buy Chinese cash for perhaps 20 cents each; I have most dynasties and emperors, Today they they would be an average of perhaps $10 each.

My other hobbies? a 30 year old 6,9 litre Mercedes, which explains my user name, and gem faceting,
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