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1983 Copper Cent

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I have found what I believe to be a 1983 copper cent. Being that the last year for copper was 1982, anyone know of these in existence? I have a Ryedale "Ace" sorter and I ran it through about 15 times and every time it came out on the copper side. I need to weigh it but do not have a jewelers scale yet. I will be getting on here in the near future. My research shows it should weigh approximately 3.11g.

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AG
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That's right 3.11 grams. I haven't heard if they "officially" exist, but one cannot rule out the possibility. I hope you do have one, that would be a nice catch!

I weight EVERY '83 I come across and have yet to find one. They would be very rare!
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Supposedly they can and do exist.

I suggest using a Popsicle stick to balance it against a known copper and/or a known zinc on the other side.
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I was hand sorting and this one looked just like a copper so I ran it through the ace and it came out on the copper side. Did a double take of the date and ran it through again. Same result. Found it hard to believe so did it about 10 more times and every time it fell out on the copper side. I will try the popsicle stick method. Is there anywhere that describes the method, jbuck?

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There is, but it would be easier for me to just tell you than search for the link.

1. Find a nice clean Popsicle (or other brand) stick and a round pencil.

2. Place the known cent on one end of the stick, then the suspect on the other.

3. Carefully balance the center of the stick across the pencil. You may find it easier if you tape the pencil down.

If the coins match, this should be easy.

If the coins do not match (onc zinc, one copper), then it should favour the copper side.


I generally do the test a few times and always test against both a known copper and a known zinc. I call it a "check and balance" verification. Yeah, bad pun intended.
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putting the center of the stick on the pencil is critical, along with putting each coin on end of stick (or the same distance from the center). Experiment with known coins.

But if I didn't have a scale, I'd be so giddy I'd have to find a coin shop or jeweler to have it weighed.

Does anyone have a reference to a known authenticated coin like this? There was a thread on another forum (AGCoinHunter posted in it today) and the OP in that thread never posted again with the weight.


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Wow....good luck with that!
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Yes. I am not sure how many are known but they do exist. Any possible examples have to be carefully weighed.

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Bill


*This was in response to the question asked by LuckyDime back in Feb if a 1983 Copper Penny existed and Bill(Found-in-Rolls) answer is above.

I weigh every single 1983 LMC that I find while roll searching on a digital scale,hoping for that magical # of approx 3.11G



AGCoinHunter: Hope you found one!!

* If I may suggest, I'd invest in a digital scale.

They are well worth the money and a necessary tool of the trade etc. (IMHO)

If your cent weighs 3.11 etc, you would know right away.

I'm constantly also weighing 1982's because of the different copper/zinc coins etc..


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Do any TPGs certify and grade wrong metal planchets?
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Way to go/ I'm still looking and weighing every 1983,
In the meantime I'm Still waiting

Good Luck on the weight
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Yes they all do.
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I weigh mine, also. Before purchasing a good reloaders digital powder scale I used the popcicle stick method. I modified it slightly and I think it worked better. Instead of balancing on a pencil I simply marked the exact center of the stick and laid it on my desk with the centerline on the edge, half on the desk and half off. Then you lay a zinc cent on the stick portion on the desk which is laying flat. Much easier that working on a stick at an angle. Now take the 83 and place on the unsupported end. If zinc,nothing happens but copper launches the test weight coin across the room. Well, exaggeration but you get the idea. I found that this is easier to do.
Jim
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Jim, I like that method!

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