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What's With This 1965 Washington Quarter Cladding?

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There is a ridge between the plating and the area without the plating.

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The cupronickel cladding layer is gone. It looks like it has been damaged or forcibly snapped off because the strike relief on the copper section is very weak.
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Missing Clad Layers; I take it this would be missing after the strike. "Error Trends" magazine has this listed at $125 for before and after strikes. Does anyone know what the value would be for 1/2 of a side? By the way, nice find.
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I'm not experienced enough to determine one way or another, but would it still qualify as a missing clad error if it were post mint forced damage? I wouldn't think so, otherwise we'd do it to all our commons.

What would be the visual clues as to whether it left the mint like that? You would think that the strike would be sharper if the clad layer were missing before hand, but can't the clad layer come off after the strike, especially if it is rim-to-rim?
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If it was damage, I think you could see it on the rim.
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dangit, now I want a Reese's Cup.

Interesting quarter...PMD? Doesn't really look like it......
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Partial split clad layer, post strike. From what I can see, it is more than likely a genuine error. Something like this is hard to fake without leaving alot of damage to the copper core unless the clad layer is already split. An attached split clad is commonly referred to as a "clamshell" but it can be separated or broken off at some point in circulation. The weakness of the copper portion of the design is what tells me it separated after striking. A pre-strike separation can yield a surprisingly nice strike on the copper such as this example-
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The copper core and clad layer are flush with each other on this coin and the copper even has some Red color left
As for your coin, I would want better pictures of the split area before valuing it. If there is significant damage to the copper core that I cannot see, the it is worth 25 cents. If the clad edge shows signs of stress from being manually broken off then its value would be reduced a bit but that would probably be a bit more subjective. If everything is ok then it is probably a $50 error.
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I agree with wd and razor
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Quote:
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Yet they didn't really agree with one another.

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The weakness on the "copper" part is exactly what you want to see. This is a genuine, partially split outer layer that occurred after the strike. What I can't tell from the picture is if it had any help or if the layer split away on its own:-)

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it looks like it had heap with a blade or something. look at the rims, there are small dings there.
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Part of it is missing it's cladd layer.
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This topics been dead for a while, but now people are telling me it's worth $25, and I've had offers of a couple hundred. How much is it really worth?
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If it were me, I'd take "De-Lam's for $200 Alex" and RUN!!

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"missing after the strike" - "after" being PMD, no matter how you slice it (off) after the strike.

If you've had offers of a couple of hundred for it, I cant say, "it's worth what you can get for it."

I still think it's PMD....if there are people who will pay that much for PMD, so be it...sell it to one of them.


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Part of the clad layer broke off after the strike. Since the edge shows an irregular contour and is not bent up, I strongly suspect that the break was natural. I would estimate its value at around $20.
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