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 Posted 03/30/2010  4:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add paratrend to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I'm new here so take it easy on me, I found this coin about 2 years ago whilst clearing an old ditch. Can anybody identify it for me? I have photographed it beside a current Uk pound, at some time somebody has cut away a lot of the coin.
The thickness is approx 35mm.
Many thanks.

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 Posted 03/30/2010  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not British. This appears to be (or perhaps was) a Spanish 4 reales, dating from sometime in the 1600's - the first letter in the Spanish king's name is "P", so it's one of the king Philips, probably either III or IV.

I call it a 4 reales because the "IIII" next to the shield would be the denomination mark, but a 4 reales ought to be much bigger than a 1 pound coin. They're not normally this regularly shaped, either - these crude "cob" coins are typically very irregular in shape.

I suspect someone has indeed trimmed the edges of this coin, perhaps for a more aesthetic mounting into a piece of "pirate jewellery", like the items these people sell.
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 Posted 03/31/2010  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paratrend to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sap, now that I know its spanish and a reales I've been "googling" it, and now I know what a "cob" is.
Where I found it is about 1 mile inland from the sea, people here were typically very poor, especially in the 1600s, there was a famous battle here in 1690, some were French jacobites, maybe some were Spanish, they might have camped here before going into battle approx 10 miles away?
Once again, many thanks..
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For sure that's a cob piece. Spanish, maybe Mexican or Peruvian.

@Sap: yes, it does seem very regular.. is it possible that people would clip away at a coin to "cut corners" and save up scrap?

BTW, what an amazing FIND! Did ya just look at the ground and there it was?
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yes, it does seem very regular.. is it possible that people would clip away at a coin to "cut corners" and save up scrap?

I did consider the possibility that it had simply been clipped... or that someone had trimmed the coin down to match the weight of a British silver coin of the period. But for me, the decider was the regularity of the edges, and the consistent angles the clips have occurred at... almost like facets of a jewel, which leans me toward the aesthetic / jewellery theory.
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It's probably a Phillip IV Mexico City One Real coin-and it was made that way
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