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The following is written in the lincoln, wheat ears reverse page of the 2008 Red Book;

"Dicoloured (brown) or weakly struck piecesare worth less."

what is meant by the brown colour; is it the colour of the whole coin or he means the brown spots or areas of corrosion that may affect the coin.


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I don't like that wording. They start out red (RD), change to red brown (RB), and end up brown (BN). Does that make a brown cent "discolored"? Within a grade level, the red coins (all other things being equal), are more valuable than the brown ones.

A discolored coin (some other color than RD, RB, or BN) may be worth *more* than a brown coin, if people really find it attractive. Or less if it is unnatural and/or unattractive.

For what its worth, The Blue Book has a similar comment about "discolored", but does not put "brown" in parenthesis after it.

My opinion isn't worth much; would love to hear a comment from a Lincoln nut like Thad.


( edit ) How many times do have to edit this thing to get my words right.

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03/31/2010 09:52 am
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They mean the WHOLE coin. Spotted and corroded coins are worth even less as most collectors consider that unattractive.
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Thad, do you consider a brown cent to be "discolored"?
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Thanks for the info
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I do not consider brown to be discoloration. I consider it to be toning. Different beast. Discoloration is usually caused by exposure that is not natural ie. cleaned or in contact with something that affected it. A deep brown can be beautiful as well although I will confess to liking red better. Copper will turn eventually when exposed to the elements. But a well struck coin with beautiful details will ALWAYS be a well struck coin with great details regardless of it's color. Sincerely, John Leckrone
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I'm with John, I know of no copper collector that considers brown discoloration. When that term is used, it's because a coin is not either brown, red-brown nor red.
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Thanks John and Thad, so you agree the RedBook is a bad choice of wording.
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RD
RB
BN
are coin designations/identifiers.

I agree with those who interpret the above designations as (natural) toning.

discoloration indeed

sell me all your "discolored" 55 dds, for worth less !
worth less?
i'll pay less !!

sure I will


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