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On Friday I picked up 2k in Uncs from D3722 1000C to D3722 3000C. I am keeping the 100 of 3722 2201 to 3722 2300. My first radar! And it has a few others that I want. I pick up the 1 k prior to this on Monday.
One of notes (D3722 2501) has a large ink smudge (1/3 of an inch) on the left number where the D and 37 are blurry with a streak running up. It almost looks like the sheet got touched by a finger or something. One of these days will have some pics up. If it was not an unc you would think someone messed with it.
There are no stars and I think the stars would have been in the stack PRIOR to this (3721 9999 and 3722 0000) as it would have contained 4 zero's and nines based on Lew's website info.
bvalania, what did you find out about your recent find? Like you, I have NOT touched this stack and it's still in the strap. TIA
For future reference, If anyone is collecting any particular uncs like bookends etc let me know. I plan on building a collection of special trinary's and 3 digit bookends going forward. I have a strange feeling that more uncs are going to hit the local area.
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What is exactly a "radar" note? I know it is from US but what it looks like and the difference between the "radar" note and normal US bills. Pictures would be appreciated.
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its like a weird SN. mine is 00044000, read the same foreward as backward
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what is an SN? sorry newbie to notaphily (look it up)
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so thats what it is Thanks lafaa and happy birthday!
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I still have that strap, just gonna hold it until ebay has the list for free with no seller fee special going on and put it on there and see what it sells for. I don't really have and interest in serial numbers, unless it's something to do with stars or errors. |
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"One of notes (D3722 2501) has a large ink smudge (1/3 of an inch) on the left number where the D and 37 are blurry with a streak running up. It almost looks like the sheet got touched by a finger or something. One of these days will have some pics up. If it was not an unc you would think someone messed with it."
I've heard of "roller" error notes. Try googling that and compairing to tour note see if you come up with any similarities. That's my only guess for now with out any pics...
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bvalania,
Thanks for that info. The ones I see on the net have the black ink roller smears. The one I have with the numbers is the green ink.
Found another unc note from a sealed BEP strap yesterday where on the reverse the right side of the 'great seal' is missing ink and also has green ink smears. It looks like low ink on the "bottom right half side of the great seal" ( 3 to 6 O'clock position) with the smudge just on the edge to the outer side of the seal and is very visible as my note with the numbers.
I am going to have to spend more time on some of the uncs going forward. The clue I am seeing to a problem in the stack is heavy ink on the print runs and seeing small ink spots in various spots on the notes and the notes some what sticking to each other.
Yesterdays stack was from Richmond.
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Found another unc stack that contained a radar (A25622652 C). This is just dumb luck.
Any who, found 3 other notes in the stack where there were ink issues. Not sure if any have value but I am going to try and describe what I pulled out.
1) The FRB seal - The letter "A" is blurry with black dots where there should NOT be any ink. This is the very first note.
2) The bottom right and left around and the signature area has green ink (almost like sprayed). The same is going on above and around the portrait. The total area affected is probably around 30 to 40% of the note. I am hoping this one amounts something.
3) On the reverse below the eagle's neck - From the neck down to the fin area has a large green and white streak (about an inch long and 1/4 inch wide) which looks like bloated tear drop and is very visible.
all 3 are quite visible when comapred to a clean note.
FWIW, it took me close to 4 hours to go through this stack and going forward I am going to save the BEP identification / serial number barcode tags.
Also, I took out the following 2562 2561, 2562 2562 and 2562 2563. What would 61 and 63 be considered? thanks
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25622562 is called a repeater and have much higher premiums than radars (or is it the other way around? either way, its still really valuable)
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My understanding (based on my dd) is that more of the same digit in the SN higher the price. For instance a radar with 6 of the same digit would be around $150+ (64666646 - Radar, binary and bookend) and around 250 for a super radar (4666 6664) for a graded unc in the correct market conditions (Right now is the time to be buying and not selling).
So a radar with the same four of the same digits (5144 4415) would go for about $75 + and around $25+ for something like 3658 8563. Same holds true for repeaters with 23232323 starting the highest and 29412941 being the lowest in price.
Please add anything else that may be appropriate. Thanks
Peace
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Ive got a radar binary bookend.......00044000. I bought that for $20 at a coin shop.
is it worth $150?
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Ceylon, here are my guesses: 1. Just an ink smudge. When the notes are new sometimes if you rub the notes it will cause the FRB seal, or the numbers in the far corners, or some other device to smude or blur. I think this is the case especially cause it was on the outside of the stack. I have some cool ones I will scan and post when I can. 2. Wet ink transfer. If you take the back of a dollar and compare it to the "spray" on the bottom of your note I think it will line up. Also I think the ink around the vignette is from the word "one" in the middle of the back of a dollar. Try and compare it to that. Almost all notes have this kind of transfer to some degree. It seems to be more common in some places than others, but around the vignette I see it a lot. Value depends on the extent and apparent of transfer. 30 to 40 percent it would have to be really visible to bring a big premium. Again I will try to get scans up when I can. 3. This one I am more uncertain of but I would guess some of the ink got wiped off the plate before the note was struck. With intaglio printing ink is placed on the printing plates. The ink goes into the recesses of the plate. The plate is then wiped so all the excess ink is removed and the sheet then gets printed. Sometimes when they wipe the plates too much ink is removed. Of course without scans these are just guesses. Even with the scans they would still be guesses  . Can you get pictures up? |
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Lafaa, Sorry no, but I think at 20 you got a good deal. Here is why Radar values are based on mathematical odds (my understanding). The CENTER block of numbers is the KEY to the whole nonsense. Your's is probably a 2 to 4 based on a10 scale. Also the digits and ending block letters play a role and I am still trying to sort that out. Examples below using your numbers (I am anchoring the center 4's for this exercise) and the numerical order can be diff as I am trying to fill in the blanks of the hierarchy. But this should give you a good idea of the pecking order. Each move up in position adds about $20 to $30 in value 2 to 4 - 0004 4000 5 0044 4400 6 4044 4404 7 4404 4044 - I am not sure if this would be a "true" repeater (eliminate the 0, I have seen some similar to this as repeaters on ebay) 8 4004 4004 - Repeater 9 Leaving it blank, here we go back to the digits on the SN. 10 0444 4440 Hopefully someone else has done this and contributes / adds to what I have come across. Peace |
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Siuol, Concur on 1 and 2. I am going to hang on to them as they are unc. Item 3 is still over my head. "Can you get pictures up?" I am technically challenged, but mathematically inclined.  BTW, I ran into my first low SN - K0000 7606E -03A First "T" for 06 from Atlanta. A teller saved a 1934A NY fed green seal $10 note for me. (B79169505B). There is a number written in pencil on the back and am leaving it as is. Not sure how the number got as high as wiki has the print figure at 42,346,000. It's in better shape than this one and the car is a "model T" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U...te_Front.jpghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U...ote_Back.jpgPeace |
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