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 Posted 04/04/2010  10:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fedex to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently sold a 2003 1 ounce panda sealed in plastic for $1,225. The same buyer is interested in my 1986 panda with an offer of $1,157.80, but I haven't contacted him back yet. The problem is that this coin while in plastic is not sealed and has spots on both sides, which I recently learned is patina or "tones." My questions are does this affect the value in any way? or should I try to clean it? Are the prices fair? thanks.
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 Posted 04/04/2010  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no, I would not advise cleaning it, and no, the spots should not affect the value, as long as if it is natural
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let me rephrase that, NO! NEVER clean a coin 99.99999% of the time. do NOT clean this coin
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Dipping a coin in Acetone is generally not considered cleaning and often can be beneficial to a coin. I don't know if your Panda would be benefited by a dip in Acetone, so I'd wait for one of the chemistry experts to chime in. Tell the person about the problem and let he/she decide what they want.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Show the guy a picture of the coin (both sides). Don't make a huge deal about the spots but don't hide them either. If he still wants it at that price then sell it and don't worry about it anymore.

I think Acetone is primarily for removing organic residue from coins. Your spots don't sound like organic residue so I doubt it will do much.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1200ish is the going rate for these. You are giving him a good deal.
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 Posted 04/05/2010  04:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fedex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate all the informative comments...I won't try to clean it off. If you were a buyer would the patina or non sealed plastic covering affect your decision to buy this 1986 coin? I'm not sure why it wasn't sealed or if the covering came loose, because I don't own this particular coin, I'm just trying to sell it for a family member on craigslist.
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No, some people like patina and some don't. Show it to the prospective buyer and see what they say.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fedex to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The buyer is saying since the plastic covering the coin is not sealed he would offer $100 less, which would come out to $1,057.80. Keep in mind he hasn't seen the coin yet. thoughts?
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No! Never!
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He/She is offering below spot!? Look for another buyer or keep the coin.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nicholas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's $100 below melt value.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add specksynder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
don't sell! (at that price)
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Bad news. Your 2003 1oz gold BU Panda trades at $300 to $400 over melt because of its low mintage. It is a $1400 coin easy.

The 1986 has a much higher mintage and trades at melt +$100 or $1250 today.

The spotting you describe is normally easy to remove, but do not try it if you have no previous experience. It does not hurt the value a bit and I would not consider less than $1200 for the 1986.
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It is a gold coin, so I don't get what his issue is with the plastic not being sealed since it won't react with anything. If he doesn't like the patina don't worry about it, somebody else will. He's just trying to get you to lower the price. It is a pretty basic negotiating technique, find some minor "flaw" and make a big deal about it.
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