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Is Toning Good Or Bad?

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HI everyone, I'm looking through my third box of Lincoln's and see some really cool looking toned coins. Some have no scratches or any other flaws, just the toning. Some people on here like toned coins and some don't, but is there a general rule of thumb on this one? Do toned coins make a coin less valuable to graders or potential buyers? Or does it not matter at all?

Thanks everyone.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's in the eye of the beholder. Toning is just a nice way of saying "oxidation". If it's on a Morgan dollar then price can really inflates.

There are ways of creating artificial toning and get away with it. I remember a dealer using WD 40 and some low heat.

One of the big culprits though is the coin making contact with paper products containing sulfur such as a coin folder.

Artificial or not they canb look pretty, but if an entire collection is original copper red or silver white collection, then a single coin can look odd.
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 Posted 04/07/2010  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a toning fan. Is it a sign of the metal degrading? I'm a BU kind of guy. Artificial toning is especially gross. But again, I have some really UGLY coins that I really like.
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No, toning occurs from natural gas reactions and sulfur, which is why many in albums are toned.

Some people will pay crazy premiums for an attractive naturally toned coin. Here is an example of a toned Morgan, part of the famous Sunnywood "Over the Rainbow" Morgan collection:

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Needs to be dipped.
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LOL.........I do know that pieces like that are valued very highly.
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Your opinion, but the collection with that coin in it sold for over a million. There are toning fanatics and some that aren't. Although I created a poll to see who liked toners, and the majority said they did.
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billie, how do you not think that that is not BEAUTIFUL?
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 Posted 04/07/2010  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From a cash value stand point......... Absolutely!
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 Posted 04/07/2010  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennrj430 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, thanks for the input. So, there is a market for toned coins..
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Of course, but it depends on what type of toning. Naturally toned and attractive will always be worth more than artificially toned coins. Toning is most popular on silver, though.
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I like nice shiny silver coins but I also find some of the toned coins quite appealing.

A coin is only ever worth what the buyer is willing to pay. So sure toned coins are more valuable to the right audience.
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Be nice to have one of each...
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 Posted 04/07/2010  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To tone or not to tone, that is the question...

I'm personally a big junkie for it, but as many have already said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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