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Coconut On This Quarter?

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 Posted 04/16/2010  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiege to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can the result of a die break be a Cud? It seems confusing reading various definitions on these. What I don't understand is if there is a die break and the progressive result produces metal protruding from it, would it be a Cud or what please?
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 Posted 04/16/2010  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Some experts in the error-variety hobby insist that for the blob to be called a Cud, the damaged part of the die must include part of the edge of the die. Although this is the purist definition, in common parlance you'll see the term " Cud" used to describe the blob created by any die chip or serious die crack, regardless of its placement on the die or coin.


OK, let's really read it now. "Although this is the purist definition" ..... Another word for "purist" is "correct" ..... Just because tons of people throw around the word Cud incorrectly referring to the interior doesn't make it right, it just makes tons of people wrong.

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 Posted 04/16/2010  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Cud is on the edge of the coin.

If I understand you correctly, you are asking what to the result of the die break is called. When looking at the coin, it is called a die break. It shows as a raised section or blob on the coin.

Just like a coin from a doubled die is referred to as a doubled die. Similarly, a coin with a die crack on it is really the result of a die crack. You aren't seeing the die crack itself.

If someone says, "That's a die gouge", it is raised on the coin. Because the gouge is on the die.

And another: you see fine, raised lines on a coin, and someone tells you those are die polish lines. The die polish lines happened on the die, and are shown on the coin.

Hope that makes some sense.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiege to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scubu . . .I like the way you put that



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 Posted 04/16/2010  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiege to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BTW. . . am just curious if anyone has run across this specific die break on the Northern Mariana Quarter. I found about 30 or so coconut looking ones and only about 5 with the coconut and banner look. These came out of the 100 count bags I had gotten from the mint. Anyone else?
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 Posted 04/16/2010  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiege to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thought I would put all the pics gathered so far together for newcomers to put together

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As I stated earlier-

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A genuine Cud is an error caused by a die break affecting the face and shank of a die. Since the shank must be affected, a Cud will always emanate from the edge of the coin.
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Yes Bio... I am learning
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 Posted 04/16/2010  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suppose it would be good to provide a visual aid of what a die looks like, a State Quarter die in this case-

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The shank would be the smallest cylindrical portion below the face of the die.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiege to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool...as I have never seen this
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