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Coconut On This Quarter?

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This sure looks like a coconut hanging from this tree to me

Am I imagining things.

And yes I know it's a Cud

Northern Mariana Island 2009P

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It can't be a Cud, they come from the rim into the coin.
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The coconut is about 8 o'clock on the tree and also is a banner looking Cud at about 5 o'clock above the 09 in 2009

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In reference to about.com:Coins
Quote "Some experts in the error-variety hobby insist that for the blob to be called a Cud, the damaged part of the die must include part of the edge of the die. Although this is the purist definition, in common parlance you'll see the term " Cud" used to describe the blob created by any die chip or serious die crack, regardless of its placement on the die or coin."

Or am I missing something?
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That's not what I've heard but okay
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Just using the info I have read in reference to Cuds tho :)
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I would not necessarily call that a "purist" definition. A genuine Cud is an error caused by a die break affecting the face and shank of a die. Since the shank must be affected, a Cud will always emanate from the edge of the coin. A Cud is a collectible and valued error while small die chips are quite common and an accepted part of the minting process. Many people mistakenly call die chips " Cuds" but that does not make them a Cud any more than someone calling a 1955 Lincoln a "poor man's double die" makes it a genuine valuable doubled die(only worthless Die Deterioration). Die chips can be fun little things to look for on coins but don't expect them to be anything more than a curiosity.

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So what would make this a small "chip" being that it is very visible looking at it without magnification, like the "speared bison" which is a die break that "looks" like a spear going through a bison. . . this, lets say is a coconut (visual like the spear) that the NMIslands uses in a many variety of receipies and the banner, above the 09, celebrating the last of the States and Territories Quarters.



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die gouges, remember the dies image is recessed or below the die surface any dings on the surface result in a raised bump/blob,,,on the minted coin...
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aladin. . . I'm not sure as to what you are saying
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I think I see a lime in the coconut?
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The image (banner look) isn't a gouge. It is all above the surface of the coin and is the result of a "U" shaped die crack above the 09 in 2009.
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The Image of the Coconut in the tree is the result of a die crack that ran down that specific branch in that tree.
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One more Cud on this specific quarter which is located inbetween the "IN" on the obverse.

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That isn't a Cud...it's a die break between the "I" and the "N".

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