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Help Identifying 5 Indian ? Silver Coins

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 Posted 04/15/2010  12:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add neal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hope someone here might be able to identify 5 what I believe to be Indian,i looked thru my 1800-1900 Krause but could not find them,4 larger coins are approx 2.8 grams each and about 22mm,the smaller is just smaller

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 Posted 04/15/2010  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I actually think the coin on the top right is an Iraqi silver dinar. You have it flipped, by the way.
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These are all older than 1800. The two with the hexafoil in the centre are from the Seljuq Turks of the crusader period, I believe. The other two might be as well; I'll have to do some researching once I get home from work later tonight.

Can we have a pic of the other sides?
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That might be why I could not find them,i will upload some new pics in about half an hour of both sides,thanks Sap
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Here are some better pictures,both obverse and reverse

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OK, I've found one of them, top right in your new pics:
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#2: Seljuqs of Rum, sultan Qilij Arslan IV, silver dirham dated 663 Islamic Era (= 1265 AD), minted in Konya (ancient Iconium). This example on Zeno.ru is a very close match, given the wide variation in designs for this period.

I've got to go out again; hopefully I'll find more info on the others once I get back.
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#1 is a little trickier, but given the similarity in design to #2, it's of a very similar time period. The Sultan in this case is the successor of the ruler named on coin #2, Kaikhusru III (ruled 1266-1284 AD) but I can't determine the date or mintmark; it's not in the usual formula for this type of coin. This was the closest zeno.ru match I could find.
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#3 (bottom left):

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An earlier Seljuq coin to the previous two: this one is in the name of the sultan Kaiqubad I, who reigned from 1220 to 1237 AD. The date and mintmark on these coins is hard to read because of the lack of a distinct border between the marginal legends and the central inscriptions, but it's Sivas mint, I think, year 617 (1220 AD). A good zeno match here.
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#4 is another coin of Kaiqubad I:

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The script is definitely older style than on coin #3: the die-cutter in this instance was definitely old-school. He may have been a forgetful die-cutter too, or perhaps it's a mule of some kind, because it's undated: the mint-phrase "this dirham was struck in..." appears on both sides,instead of the phrase on one side and the date on the other. The mint-name itself is worn and indistinct on both sides, but it appears to be Sivas again. This zeno coin is similarly old-school script, but has the date 625 (1228 AD).
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#5 (the little one in the middle) is a mystery to me; I don't think it's Seljuq. The script in the lower pic is more modern (perhaps early Ottoman) but I have no idea which way is up on the top pic. It appears to have been double-struck.
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Thanks Sap,much appreciated your time and effort to find these for me,now they can go back into the album with the correct desciption istead iof just Indian with a question mark,another job well done
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