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1919 Australian One Penny.

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 Posted 04/15/2010  8:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lsellers7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
im not really sure how I obtained this coin
but as far as I know its in good condition
can anyone please give me a value onit?
and maybe some insight on its history.
thanks



1919-Australian-One-Penny.



1919-Australian-One-Penny.

oh and the penny doesn't look exactly how it does in the pic
my scanner is a little low quality.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have a 1919 George V One Penny
These were produced from 1911-1936
in 1919 the mintage was 5,810,000
There are two other varieties of the 1919 Penny
one has the dot over the scroll the other has the scroll with a dot above and below.
the coin is 97% copper, 2.5% zinc, 0.5%tin
The edge should be plain. Weight 9.45 grams. Size 30.8mm

Hard to tell the grade from your picture.
I will leave that to someone else.
Hope that answers your questions
Value will depend on grade.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lsellers7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks , now the grade depends on what?
how its taken care of or?
i havent cleaned it, if thats what it is, I heard cleaning it lowers the value.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add latman100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The grade is determined by the condition the coin is in compared to when it left the mint. For instance an Uncirculated coin may be straight from a mint roll and straight into a collection, having seen no circulation and showing no wear from use at all. Thus it's value will be high. What you need to understand is that wear and damage quickly reduce the value of a coin.

For instance, your coin pictured here if it is a 1919 plain has a catalogue value of $1,500 in uncirculated condition. It is very difficult to tell the grade of yours from the pictures, but even from these wear is quite evident and I would hesitatingly grade it somewhere between very good and fine. Or 75c to $7 in the catalogue.

To confuse matters a little more, very good is actually a lower grade, the grade scale being poor, very good, fine, very fine, extra fine, almost uncirculated, uncirculated and a couple more grades after uncirculated for describing exceptional coins.
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 Posted 04/16/2010  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
... and it was minted in Melbourne.

If you had two of them, you could play a game called "swy" (there are other names) - a traditional Australian activity on 25th April, and if you strictly adhere to tradition, after a breakfast of rum & coffee.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-up

Rumour has it that Americans were introduced to swy on the eve of the Battle of Hamel, 04th July, 1918.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hamel

Although this penny could not have been at Hamel, perhaps some Doughboy was hoping to complete the set ?

Coins open us to so many fields of study ...

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 Posted 04/22/2010  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bigdamoc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
swy? As far as I know its 2 up, never heard of swy. Been that way in my family for years/decades. 95% of people would call it 2 up and 95% of people wouldnt know what swy is id think.
Nice coin to by the way, not to worn or damaged.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My grandfather has a couple of early 1900 pennies at home. He also calls them his swy. It's slang for two up. From the old school ie. The Digger's gambling game.
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 Posted 04/22/2010  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly from a Yiddish use of German "zwei" = two.
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