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1908 Five Cent Piece - Bad Pictures

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 Posted 04/25/2010  11:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone make this coin out well enough to make a rough call on grade?



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 Posted 04/25/2010  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/25/2010  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i can't make out from the pictures if its uncirculated or not. its minimum AU50 or 55.
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 Posted 04/26/2010  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a tough call. I have an inkling it's retoning, and in about 6 years, it'll be pitch black.
I think this one has been over dipped in the past, and that black toning creeping in on the top is going to spread.
I would grade it around the same everyone else is. Probably XF-AU
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I'm filling sets for a cousin of mine so I took a chance on it and paid VF 30 money. If it's awful I'll pick up another. I'll update this thread when it arrives. Unlike a lot of these under MS grades there were only the three little rim dings so the overall appearance wasn't too bad (or I figured it wouldn't be too bad in hand).
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 Posted 04/27/2010  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF Maltese cross over bowtie staggered I I of VII.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solid EF no doubt , but in hand might even be EF45 to AU +

Let me know what others you are looking for Ugly, I just got rid of a bunch , but have others (other than the 08 )
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 Posted 05/04/2010  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK I received this coin and I was quite happy with it. Better than I expected overall and a LOT better than the filler I was going to put in. No comparison.

Thanks for your opinions.

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How will it grade now that you have it in hand? Would it be possible to see the Rev?
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 Posted 05/04/2010  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I called it EF in hand, this scan is very flat but scans are great at showing off high point wear (but hiding luster)



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ICCS ( yuk ) VF 30 ... My call EF ....
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Can't believe the scan either, it diminishes three dimensional depth in the center of every scan, that's just how cheap scanners work.

I really do need to get that macro lens on the camera, fishscales are just way to fartin teeny tiny for the average camera. It works fine for anything down to a quarter but after that it's hit and miss without it.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Ugly,
again, use BLACK or dark gray back ground...scan at 1200
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Hi HH
That doesn't change the stretching and thinning in an image since 1200DPI is an extrapolated setting full of empty pixels. A scanner in the 15K + range based on a Photo Multiplier Tube can fix this though

It's like a digital zoom function. Some are better than others but all are just a compromise based on the ability of the lens to capture reflection from the CCT or LEDs. These small lens scanners all curve small targets just like a fisheye lens on a camera makes round things egg shaped.

The background colour won't change that but granted it WILL change the coins surface colour in a scan. What it can't do is change the definition etc...

Not too worried about this coin, would never send it to grade since it has a surface corrosion spot where that green flash is in the obverse and would end up with a details note anyhow. I'll halt the tiny spot and it will stay in my cousins album likely for a long time.

This will be a good coin to re-shoot with the new setup though.
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Ugly, for what it is worth, this coin came off a "freshly" repunched die with the "maltese cross" over a "full" bowtie. Nice example.
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Thanks for the footnotes CRF, appreciate that. I was attracted to it initially by the strong definition in these areas even with the tiny pictures I had.

My bad photography aside, it still shows a lot of luster on the reverse and a slightly lesser but still significant quantity on the obverse.
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