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Fake 1868 And 1871 IHC On E-Bay

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 Posted 04/30/2010  5:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add big777bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here's a link to a counterfeit 1868 IHC on e-bay. The seller also has an 1871 which is also counterfeit. The 1868 has the bold N reverse which was not on the 1868 and the last feather on the 1871 is between the c and a. This didn't happen until 1886.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1868-INDIAN-HEA...em3cac7396e3
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 Posted 04/30/2010  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know anything about these things...the difference is on one of the N's? The second one is PCGS certified, photo from Heritage:

The one the PCGS slab might have wider diagonal on "N", if that is what you mean.

ebay coin:
Fake-1868-And-1871-IHC-On-E-Bay

Coin in PCGS slab:
Fake-1868-And-1871-IHC-On-E-Bay
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04/30/2010 5:50 pm
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How did we survive without google?

http://www.fly-inclub.org/let21.htm

Type I reverse (known genuine 1868 coin):
Fake-1868-And-1871-IHC-On-E-Bay


Type II reverse (known genuine 1872 coin):
Fake-1868-And-1871-IHC-On-E-Bay

Okay, I think I finally got this thing edited down.
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04/30/2010 6:18 pm
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After all that finagling on my part, I can't tell anything from the ebay photo. But I can see the problem with the feather on the 1871. That auction closed over $200.

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Where is the 1871?
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Thanks Steve. $202.50 someone is gonna be very disapointed. That is a very good catch.
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On the 1867, 1868, 1869 IHC the N on the one is weak at the bottom right, all coins minted in those years have this same anomaly. Most all of these fakes come from Chinese operations.http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/
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In can't believe there wasn't more response to this topic. I read on here of people complaining about cleaned coins being sold as misrepresentations but a legit counterfeit and nothing. Go figure.
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Friday evenings can be a little slow around here
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If you can find an old post with the link, and get the ebay listing, check "the "other items". There is where all the coins, including this one are listed. A appear to be fakes. there are at least three, the '86, the '71, and the '22-weak "D"
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Why do you say the "weak-D" is fake?
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Hello Dick how you doing today? The same seller also had a 1909S that the "S" appeared to be added. He got over $500 for that one. Not a bad take over $800 for about 10 cents worth of junk!
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