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I have come across some new(old )world coins
But I hav'nt a clue about them.Any info would
be appreciated.Thanks,sn31.
1906 Edwardvs V11 DEL GRA BRITT OMN REX FID DEF IND IMP one penny
1900 REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE 10C
1866 LEOPOLD ll ROI DES BELGES,all I can make out on the back is"FAIT LA FORCE"
18? NAPOLEON lll EMPEREUR
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I am ignorant on the foriegn stuff but they are old and hopefully rare. Good Luck.
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1st one is from Great Britain, a Edward the vii, One Penny.
2nd 1 is French.
3rd 1 is from Belgium.
Last 1 is French as Ruled by Napoleon

TKC!
Hope it helps
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Thanks TKC,it does help :)
They're not in that good of condition,but I wonder if they're still worth hanging onto?sn31.
Also,Are these pennys,50 cents,dimes,etc...
I just know the 1906 is a penny.
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No. 2 is a 10 centimes (that's what the 10c is short for).

No. 3 depends on the diameter (it's a copper, isn't it?), though it should have a denomination written on it somewhere. The most commonly encountered Belgian copper (around here, anyway) seems to be the 2 centime.

No. 4 is copper too? If so, it's a French "Second Empire" 5 or 10 centime coin (these are the denominations most commonly found), again we could tell by the diameter if the denomination mark is worn away. The date should be somewhere in the period 1852-1870. The "Napoleon" portrayed is not the original Napoleon Bonaparte (known as Napoleon I), but his nephew Napoleon III.
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Hi Sap,
The #3 Leopold Belgium appears to be silver/nickel/or something?I have another
a 1975 DG REG FD ELIZABETH II,and all I can make outta the back is NE PENCE,and there is a numeral 2
at the bottom.This one is halfway covered in green.
That's very interesting on the "Napoleon" Are these worth hanging onto?Thanks
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sn31 you have a great britian 2 new Pence( Queen Elizabeth II)Very common... and depends on what you consider worth -Napoleon coin You have to answer some quetsions your self Why do I collect
1)Investment
2)historical
3etc . can keep going on and on you get the picture I am sure as far as value on that coin typically not worth alot but there are always exceptions to the rule..To answer that question on that paticular coin one would have to see the date... ( Think of all you learn in persuit of finding out about such coins even if they are not worth much.. that is the true value at least to me, and of course I would not scoff at making some Green either..
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quote:
Originally posted by sn31

I have come across some new(old )world coins
But I hav'nt a clue about them.Any info would
be appreciated.Thanks,sn31.
1906 Edwardvs V11 DEL GRA BRITT OMN REX FID DEF IND IMP one penny
1900 REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE 10C
1866 LEOPOLD ll ROI DES BELGES,all I can make out on the back is"FAIT LA FORCE"
18? NAPOLEON lll EMPEREUR



The Belgian text is
L'Union fait la force
United we are strong

The lowest dominiation I can find from 1866 is a silver one frank

http://users.telenet.be/egmp/belgie...indexbga.htm

On the left you can slide up all the way to the gold 20 frank
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Thank you everyone who has contributed here.You have been most helpful.I will most likely hang onto these,as I do with most of my coins worth anything or not.I was just curious if they were worth hanging onto.Thanks for the sites,I will study up more on these coins,it helps knowing what they are :) sn31.
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 Posted 07/06/2006  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sn31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been taking a closer look at this "Napoleon"
coin I have marked 18?It's made my eye's hurt, the date is so faint,but I believe it says 1855?I believe it is copper.sn31.
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1855 is indeed a likely date for that type. If you thought the date was a challenge, have a go at finding the mintmarks. The main mintmark should be just below the stick the eagle is perched on. During the Second Empire, the mintmarks were:
A = Paris
B = Rouen
BB = Strasbourg
D = Lyon (with "large D" and "small D" varieties)
K = Bordeaux
MA = Marseille
W = Lille.

There are also two "mintmaster's privy marks". These are little pictures on either side of the date. In 1855, the French Engraver General changed halfway through the year, so at least two varieties for each mint appear for that date. Your options are "dog's head" and "anchor".
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Hi Sap,
There is a B mintmark,and I would guess by the wear one side could be a dogs head,and the other an anchor.Are these both on the coin,or is it one or the other?Sorry to be a pain,thanks Sandra.
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To clarify the usage of the "privy marks" on 19th century French coinage: there were two bureaucrats who had their marks placed on French coins of this period: the Engraver General, who was in charge of all the mints around the country, and the Mint Director, with each mint having it's own Director. Thus, all coins from all mints in a particular year will have the Engraver General's mark, while the Director's mark will vary from mint to mint.

For B (Rouen) mint, the Director's mark in 1855 was a 'hand',looking like a side-on view of a hand held out like a "Hitler salute".

For BB (Strasbourg) mint, the Director's mark in 1855 should be a 'bee', top view, roughly triangular shaped with antennae at the top.

The Engraver General's mark was outlined above; up to 1855, it'll be a 'dog's head'; 1855 and later will be an 'anchor'. Both marks might occur in the transition year 1855, but not on the same coin.

From your description, it sounds like you've got an 1855 B, with hand and anchor privy marks.
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Thanks Sap :)
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I'll take a look see and hopefully can find some values for you sn31, unless someone else beats me to it.
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quote:
Originally posted by sn31

I have come across some new(old )world coins
But I hav'nt a clue about them.Any info would
be appreciated.Thanks,sn31.
1906 Edwardvs V11 DEL GRA BRITT OMN REX FID DEF IND IMP one penny
1900 REPUBLIQUE FRANCAISE 10C
1866 LEOPOLD ll ROI DES BELGES,all I can make out on the back is"FAIT LA FORCE"
18? NAPOLEON lll EMPEREUR


Would anyone have any idea of a value for these coins?They are in good/fine condition.The 18?is 1855.Thanks,sn31.
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