Help And Information On Annam Coin Please

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weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/06/2010 12:07 pm I collect 20th Century generally but as part of an acquisition of Annam coins I received a coin that I cannot find listed in my 2010 Krause 1901-2000 catalog. I have an older Yeoman catalog (1972) and I see the coin listed as Y1. Can someone tell me what the Krause number for this coin is? Additionally, Yeoman lists this as a sapeque whereas Krause lists them as phan. Does anyone have any insight here? Why 2 different ways of describing the same coins? These are my first coins in this area so learning about them is my next step. thank you PS: And as of Monday of this week, I reached the 50 post milestone!! Report this Post to the Staff

svslav Pillar of the Community United States 2605 Posts	Posted 05/06/2010 2:42 pm What is the coin you're talking about (for those of us who do not have Yeoman)? Either physical description or better yet picture would complement greatly your question. Report this Post to the Staff
DCH Pillar of the Community United States 645 Posts	Posted 05/06/2010 7:53 pm Y1 is Sapeque/Phan of Thanh Thai(1888-1907). Now KM#626, but omitted in error from the most recent catalogs. Sapeque is the French name for the coin. Phan is a weight(.3778g) rather than a denomination Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16851 Posts	Posted 05/06/2010 8:05 pm Quote: I have an older Yeoman catalog (1972) and I see the coin listed as Y1. Can someone tell me what the Krause number for this coin is? I still have my old Yeoman catalogue I was given when I was 10. It's falling apart ("Afghanistan" is now on the front cover) but the Annam page is still there. Y#1 is a is a phan / van /sapeque of the French Protectorate, king Thanh Thai. Listed as KM# 626. Since his reign crossed both centuries, the coin should be listed in both the 1800's and 1900's Krauses. Quote: Additionally, Yeoman lists this as a sapeque whereas Krause lists them as phan. Does anyone have any insight here? Why 2 different ways of describing the same coins? "Sapeque" is the French name for this style of coin, just like "cash" is the English name. Phan (sometimes spelled "van"; Krause uses both) is the Vietnamese name, which derives from the Chinese name, "wen". The two European names for the coins, "sapeque" and "cash", both derive from cultures remote from China, the land where the cash-style coin originated. "Sapeque" derives from the Malay name for the coin, while "cash" derives from the Sinhalese (southern India and Sri Lanka) name for them. Edit: I see I'll have to type faster again. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/07/2010 12:29 pm DCH and Sap - thank you both. I also would have thought it should have appeared in the 20th century Krause but it does not. I have both the 2009 and 2010 versions. Anyway, I've gone ahead and provided a picture. It is best I could do. the coin itself is pretty rough. I was after another coin and this one came with it. Now that I look at it, I'm not sure it is the Y1 or 626 but I don't have a reference to look at it more closely. If a more positive identification can be made form this picture, that would be great. thank you again Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16851 Posts	Posted 05/07/2010 9:07 pm No, you're correct, that's a Y# 1 / KM# 626. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 05/08/2010 02:09 am thank you Sap Report this Post to the Staff
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