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 Posted 07/08/2006  08:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone tell me how to tell a 2000p goodacre dollar from a normal MS. Did the mint make prooflike dollars from say... used proof dies or did they use proof planchets for business strikes after they were done making their quota of proofs. My question regards the grading services treatment of these coins. I understand that a good many Goodacre coins were cracked out of ICG slabs and sent to Pcgs for numerical grading and that some of these coins were mislabeled code 9584 (mint state). As such, how is this fair to Goodacre dollar holders or to registry normal ms holders? Is PCGS aware of this, and if this is correct, do they recertify these mistakes as Goodacres and remove them from MS pop reports? Any comments, ideas.. Thanx gusp
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 Posted 07/08/2006  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know what PCGS is doing about resubmitted Goodacre dollars, but here is a link with info about the dollars themselves. Hope this helps you out some.

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 Posted 07/08/2006  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joeyuk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I linked the whole site because there is so much great info in it. If you look in the table of contents you'll see a link for the presentatinn coins.

http://home.earthlink.net/~smalldol...f%20Contents
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 Posted 07/08/2006  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanx folks. Have studied this site. Does anyone have more info, comments on Goodacre dollar grading, attribution, IE... die charecteristics,...PUPs, or other feedback, web sites, horror stories? Did the other grading services mislable these coins?,... ect? How does this affect market value? Did the mint continue to run out the die after giving Glenna Goodacre her coins? IE,.. Are there more? ...many, many more? How about you mint set holders? Did you get pl dollars with burnished planchets? Thanx again. For sure there are different coins out there. Which switch is which? Gusp
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 Posted 07/08/2006  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as far as I know they kept using the dies after they struck her 5000 coins but there has been no mention of it to make me think so (it is just my opinion on what they would probably do). Even if they did create a million more from the same dies it still wouldn't be a goodacre dollar because what makes them a Goodacre dollar is that they were some of the original 5000 that were given to her. Yes it would have the same design and same characteristics (except maybe not burmished) but she would have never owned them which would be the key factor to having it be a Goodacre Dollar
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 Posted 07/08/2006  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Understood. However, Are we talking about collecting coins, or pedigree? Or autographs?
Imagine some dealers start xyz coin grading service and also have a sales biz. No conflict there right? Suppose the TPG graded Goodacre dollars are not the best. Someone shows up with one that is say ms69-70, but not pedigree. Possible that if those dealers get that non pedigree coin that it could make its way into a Goodacre slab? How about you or me? Same thing?
If the market is going to claim a pedigree for this coin, it seems only fair that the consumers have a right to be informed as to the true pop of this coin and to have their coins properly attributed also. A goodacre dollar by any other name is still a goodacre dollar as it is very different from a normal MS... Superior strike, burnished planchet (usually), special rinse and handling, ect. How about the folks that sent in Goodacre coins and had them mislabled? What about crackouts and attempted upgrades?
So just who was the great mastermind behind all of this marketing anyhow? How did ICG get to grade all of these coins and why not without assigning numerical grades? At $1000.00 for a ms67, the public may be better off buying rare coins, not marketing hype. Autograph collectors excepted. Pop 5500?, me thinks maybe not. Who should the public believe, the TPG's, the dealers, or maybe the mint and the coins themselves. If called a Goodacre slabed dollar, well that is one thing. To expect the public to accept some self vested others to determine a fine line and call the ones they chose (marketing) by and unto themselves, Goodacre dollars, is quite another. Thanx. Gusp
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I really doubt any top TPG company would slab a coin off the street a Goodacre Dollar without some kind of documentation stating that it was indeed from the 5000 coins that glenda received from the mint
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 Posted 07/08/2006  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably right. So what do you call the rest? They are very different. Thanx
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