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I have a large number of ancient coins that I simply can not find in any books that I own. They were from two sources - Spain and Egypt. I believe they are real. I suspect they are colonial issues. Can anyone help. I will post only one at a time. The coins still have a fine grained yellow clay like material on them.

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This first one looks like it's from the Roman colony of Emerita, in the province of Lusitania (now the town of Merida, Spain), either during or shortly after the reign of Augustus. This particular coin isn't listed either in Sear's Greek Imperial or on Wildwinds, though if you look at the Wildwinds list for this city you'll find quite a few with very similar legends and themes; certainly the "camp gate" is common on coins of that city.

Is it genuine? Well, the pitting and accretions are explainable either by being buried for a long time or by recent casting. I don't have the experience with the series to judge authenticity of patina, but if you ask me to judge by the picture, it looks very good. The examples on Wildwinds are mostly very worn and off-centre, with not much of the legend readable; apparently the local mint didn't have very good quality control. A genuine coin of this series in that condition would probably command quite a premium, so if it was in a bargain box, beware.
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Great information - more than I was able to find.

The coin came from an old accumulation which was excavated near Cadiz, Spain. There are 45 others in that group. I got it from a traveling collector of general antiques who wanted to sell them. I presumed they were fakes - so I bought them for study purposes. But the more I looked I couldn't find anything wrong with them.

There were 6 coins in the group that even I could identify by Emperor. I posted them on ebay at the same time and ended up getting bids totaling about $700. That more than paid for my costs for the group. One of the bidders sent one of them to David Sears and got it certified and attributed - he was bragging that he had paid only a fraction of the value. Then I took a few to a coin show in Boston and got one authenticated as a Julius Caesar from a colonial Spanish mint - a very rare one. That is why I stopped selling them. That was about 4 or 5 years ago and I am just getting back to working on the group.

I believe that they are real.

Thanks for the help - the book you referred to - would that have most of the Spanish Colonial mints in it? I am very lost at how to start with this group. I tried the wildwinds site but I know so little about the coins that I couldn't locate any.

I will try again and post a few more if I get an attribution to see if you concur.
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The Sear Greek Imperial catalogue doesn't try to be comprehensive - you'd need a dozen Sear-sized books for that. However, he does try to include at least one coin, from each commonly-encountered coin-issuing city, for each emperor. This does help in finding general examples of the kinds of legends found on coins of that city. The Egyptian series is covered much more thoroughly in the main Roman "millenium edition" catalogues.

There's a full set of the British Museum catalogue of Greek and Roman coins here at the University where I work. If you need a specific reference number and can't find it on Wildwinds, I'll see if I can help out there.
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