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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The premiums for silver dollars are high, I agree. But I'm not totally against that because it saves a lot of beautiful pieces from getting melted.
What, by the way, has the lowest premium when it comes to junk? I'm talking about just buying individuals and bulk/lots, and not from roll-searching. I'm leaning towards halves right now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
573 Posts |
Right now I'm buying silver Roosies and Mercs for $.75-$1.00 each. This is all from private sellers, deals that I'm finding on various classified ad sites. The quarters and halves that I see are all selling for spot +.
Matt
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New Member
 United States
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I don't collect or hoard junk silver. The few coin dealers that I go to seem to treat it just like what it is called, junk. I would rather look for an individual piece for my collection than buy a roll of any thing in AG or junk silver. If the US dollar becomes worthless(highly unlikely) you would still have to convert your junk silver into another fiat currency so you could spend it at the grocery store.
Unlikely perhaps, but consider this... Since 1913 the USD has lost about 97% of it's value. It really took a big dive after Tricky Dick took us off the gold standard in 1971. All fiat currencies have eventually become worthless.
When/if the USD collapses the grocery store will probably not have any food left in it. Ammo will be just as (or more) valuable than silver at that point.
Regarding pictures... I'm sorry guys I'd love to oblige, but I do not have time to line up and stack 1000's of silver dollars in order to take pics of them. Nothing really much to look at anyway... most are VF-XF. I do have a few nice uncirculated rolls of MS-60/62 Morgan's, but they are mostly commons.
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Valued Member
United States
310 Posts |
Oh it would be something to look at indeed. I understand if its too much work.
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Valued Member
United States
187 Posts |
I understand that the USD has lost a significant amount of value. But even with that said, you are still using the USD is all retail transactions. Dispite the loss of value, you are still using it to buy your groceries at the store. What is ammo going to do for you if the store shelves are empty? You could have a room full of Morgan dollars, but if no one is willing to buy them or have the currency to buy them, what good are they? If things are in that condition, what kind of worthless currency would you sell them for? I am just not into the thinking that things would ever get that bad. I still think that hoarding junk silver is not a thing that I am interested in. Possibly, if someone did it and sold it for retirement money.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
That silver coin will buy you more in a barter situation than fiat currency would. It will be someone's bottom dollar. So while food and gas have more value than any currency, you can still buy more with silver because its production is limited (not made anymore for circulation so its value retains).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
602 Posts |
Dont really know why I hold on to all my junk silver. A lot of it is metal detecting finds. Old silverwear, dimes, silver jewelry, etc. Guess maybe trading stock. WOLF
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Valued Member
United States
188 Posts |
What type of coins do you normally find in the 1000 dollar face value bags?
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Valued Member
United States
193 Posts |
I've been collecting junk ag for some time but in the past year I've been trying to get more. I buy all kinds, not just coinage. The other silver I sell on ebay for melt value. Recently I bought 3 925 silver chains which weighed over 1 oz total for $1.00 at a flea market. Gong to sell them and use the cash for numismatic coinage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
I'm stockpiling junk silver for an investment, not so much for an economic crash. Who are these nutcases hoarding tons of ammo? Yeah, I have a bit of ammo in case of hard times, I do live in the country on acreage and can take my own wild game if need be. I really don't depend on using ammo for protection, if things get that bad, we are sunk anyway.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Valued Member
United States
258 Posts |
Junk silver is just one way of having coins as protection from inflation (government debasement of currency). Of late I have been selling mine in order to pay a lot of bills. Never the less I am a big believer in having a few hundred dollars in junk silver coins lying around.
One reason for this is that government may one day institute rationing and fixing of prices due to hyperinflation (people losing faith in fiat money) as government prints ever larger quantities of it. The game the government and banks are now playing cannot continue indeffinately without severe economic consequences.
Let us say you want to buy something that someone has for cash that the government says they can only charge x amount of dollars for. If the seller charges more than the government mandated maximum price (to protect the sellers interests as is their RIGHT) the seller would be "gouging" according to government. The thing the government will not admit though is that the seller is not "gouging" but instead protecting themselves from the collapse of the fiat money. The seller will not be able to replace that which they are selling once it is gone for a profit.
At this time which do you think the seller would prefer? A fiat paper or electronic money during hyperinflation or a silver coin which is still legal tender at face value? In a nut shell I will bet it is the silver (or gold) every single time. Everyone needs to have some junk silver. Got gold and silver? Sincerely, John Leckrone
Edited by 925dealer 08/14/2010 10:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
508 Posts |
I love collecting junk silver pieces. Still trying to find a decent seller of AG junk silver, ebay sucks hard, and so do my local coin shops!
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Valued Member
United States
72 Posts |
Quote: MorganDollarMan said: All fiat currencies have eventually become worthless. I recently read an interesting quote in a history book: "Fiat currency does work as long as individuals keep their heads and don't get overwhelmed with greed." Which I think actually reinforces your point MDM. Fiat money itself isn't the problem, human nature is the problem: there is no such thing as "rich enough". More to topic, I like junk silver better because it's more interesting than bullion. But because of that I'm probably better off buying bullion (ASE's) since it would be harder for me to part with junk silver if need be: "hey, this isn't just silver, it's 1920's silver!"
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Valued Member
United States
487 Posts |
Want constitutes junk silver, coins that are worn to the point of having no numismatic value whats so ever?
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Valued Member
United States
364 Posts |
More like coins that aren't "special" in terms of being key dates, that sort of thing. For example (and I don't have the figs in front of me, just making it up) -- let's take some silver coins, we'll say silver quarters. Let's say we've got a 1935D, a 1941, and a worn 1964. Odds are most would call that 1964 (and maybe that 1941) a junk silver coin. Is it junk? No. It just means that compared to the others it is easier to find and doesn't have particular appeal as a key date or otherwise rare coin (condition or otherwise).
I love junk silver. It's most of my collection. My strategy is to buy junk as close to melt as possible. I don't care about key dates. Hold a coin long enough and eventually it becomes rare and goes up in value. Every coin will inevitably follow this path, I don't care what it is. Even in my lifetime I have seen this with something as lowly as bicentennial quarters, which are vanishing from circulation and (slowly) rising in value. Twenty years back you'd find em' in change every ten minutes.
My strategy is to hedge my investment on both sides: I have the intrinsic value and the aesthetic and numismatic value as well. I would much rather have some multiple silver rosies from common dates than one beaten-up gray dog from a key date. I believe that over time my investment will pay off in a way a similar investment in just high-grade, rare date coins might not. If you don't think so, look at how many gold coins are trading at the same price now because the gold spot has exceeded numismatic value for most of them.
The same will happen with silver.
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