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1882-H 1 Cent What Obverse Is This?

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 Posted 05/26/2010  9:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
can anyone for absolute sure pinpoint which obverse on this 1882H cent this is?
it does not appear to be C1 as the bottom of the bust line is different, for sure NOT C1a and if the chin was different it could be C2.
beats me....
thanks
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 Posted 05/26/2010  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one thing I'm pretty sure of; When they research and give examples of these obverse/reverse varieties, they never use less than AU samples for the simple reason that wear patterns all differ and well worn coins might have been damaged and worn down past the point of being able to understand how that damage might have affected the coins characteristics.
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 Posted 05/26/2010  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
good point Ugly
However, it does not really answer the original question.
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 Posted 05/27/2010  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse 2 over Obverse 1. Nice coin.
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Bosox, I have never heard of one obverse over another..does that mean there are 2 dies involved and the coin was subject to dbl strikes? there are no other indications of it.
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 Posted 05/27/2010  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A single die pressed alternately by an Obverse 1 punch and an Obverse 2 punch. I covered these and the things in your 1901 post extensively in my book, Dies & Diadems. :))
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As bosox says, it's an Obv 2 over Obv 1, where the working die was pressed by two different Obv hubs/masters ... not on purpose, but just a random selection by bthe floor crew as they were pressing the working dies. Mr Turner has a very clear explanation of the process in his book(s). For these 2/1's look for some nice doubling on the A's in Canada, as well as a very scarce one where many letters are doubled.
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"Offsets" means the degree to which one strike fails to cover the other one. Or the amount of misalignment. Or how far off the doubling actually is. The amount of doubling that is peeking out from one side or another.
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