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Buying Coins For Melt Value

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 Posted 05/30/2010  6:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sprucansailor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am new to ebay and have been having a little fun plinking at some pretty cheap auctions for Silver coins. My goal is to get silver coins at melt value (coins with dates) Do you suppose this is a win-win situation in the cases that I might win?

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 Posted 05/30/2010  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would be getting a good price for today.

In the future, the silver bubble might burst. This would kill silver prices and ruin your investment.
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 Posted 05/30/2010  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albumcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paul is right. Buying coins for just there silver value is a bit of a gamble. If silver drops to $8 an ounce next year you might regret your purchases. But then again silver could be $30 an ounce next year. It's hard to speculate.
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 Posted 05/30/2010  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprucansailor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
True. I was not meaning to buy it strictly for investment purposes. I am hoping there might be some nice enough to put in a collection. I am not trying to buy the Junk silver and what not. ALthough I have thought about it just to go through the coins. LOL I am not sure that would be the most cost effective way to do it though.
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 Posted 05/30/2010  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the nickel series. Those coins are beautiful coins. Both Canadian and US nickels are really something to see in nice grades.
I collect coins on a budget. I spend most of my spending money on Shield and Liberty nickels and I don't regret a single purchase.

Almost perfect Shield nickels will set you back 100-500$. (Ouch!)
Common grade ones can be had for 4-10$, which is a bit better.
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 Posted 05/30/2010  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If silver goes to $8 an ounce next year, I'm buying the bleeeeeeeeep out of it!
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I don't actually think it is going to be $8, I was just using it as an example. But if it happens I will be right there with you buying it!!
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If silver goes to 8 an oz BLEEP won't cut it for me either, I'm selling my truck, all my coins, my dog, my tv's, my computer, and hopefully won't have to split everything else with my wife. I will buy A LOT of silver and live frugal until I cash in.

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id suggest going to your local coin shop and asking for their junk silver quarters, dimes, halves.. I've found many XF-BU quarters halves and even doillars for spot...
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 Posted 05/30/2010  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stacksilver79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I myself believe that silver has much upside potential and current silver spot price is a bargain!

That said, buying silver coins at melt value would be a good deal considering most silver coins, atleast that I can think of, have some sort of premium added to them. So, yes! BUY
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I'd buy for melt value if they are 90% silver. 35% War Nickels and 40% halves do not trade at melt value in most cases.

Melt value can be different than spot value because of the wear on circulated pieces. Take: (Face Value) X (0.715) X (Spot Price) to get melt value for average circulated 90% silver coinage.

An example at $18.00 silver spot for 2 common date Walking Liberty halves: ($1.00) X (0.715) X ($18.00) = $12.87.
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 Posted 05/31/2010  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprucansailor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, B, That is pretty interesting. Is that a universal method?
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Is that a universal method?


The dealers that I do business with all use it so yes, I'd guess it's universal in the U.S.

It can be applied to any 90% silver coin but should not be used for silver dollars because they have a slightly higher silver content (as a percent of face) and always carry a premium regardless of condition.
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 Posted 05/31/2010  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StJoeBlues to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are buying on a consistent basis, then dollar cost averaging should be in your favor in the long run. Throwing in the occasional numismatic premium puts you even further ahead. I know guys who have been buying silver for years (rounds, bars, 90% junk, etc). They bought when it was $6/oz and are still buying now that it's $18/oz.

The question you need to answer, though, is whether you are investing in silver and trying to make a quick profit, or whether you are using silver to store wealth against the risk of inflation. Investing in silver is difficult to turn a quick profit unless you are buying way below spot. I've got a deal with a local PM buyer. He buys silver and gold coins, jewelry, etc. at about 45-50% of spot. I buy his silver coins for 85% of spot. But if you're buying silver at spot, unles there's a numi premium, you won't be able to sell it for a profit.

But if you're using silver to store your wealth, then you're in it for the long haul. I've read this stat but haven't researched to see if it's true. But since 1913, when the Federal Reserve took over the US money system, the dollar has lost 97% of it's value to inflation (some say government created and manipulated inflation). But a silver dollar from 1921, at $14.21 of silver value as of Friday, has pretty much maintained it's 1921 value.

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I manage a pawn shop, and we do great business in both numismatic coins and bullion. We don't just wait around for the stuff we hunt for it daily. ebay is OK but craigslist nets us a ridiculous amount of 90% and we buy at 50% of spot.
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Sukardnam: That's interesting. Must depend on where you live. Do you just check Craigslist in your location? I don't see many silver coins on Craigslist in my location although I've only been watching for a few months.
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