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What Is This One ? 1701 Is The Date On It | Sicily 1 Grano

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it looks off centered and the letters are doubled in spots

What-Is-This-One-??-1701-Is-The-Date-On-It-|-Sicily-1-Grano

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 Posted 06/04/2010  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1 Grano of Sicily, Philip V. Not listed in KM.
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hi thanks for that but what does that mean ?

im sorry I have nooooo ideal about this stuff

does that mean it is from italy ?

and what is km ?

worth keeping ? slabbing?
againt I know nothing about these kinda coins

thanks
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does that mean it is from italy ?

Short answer: yes.

Sicily, the large island in the Mediterranean Sea now owned by Italy, was ruled by the kings of Spain up to 1713. "PHILIPPVS V" is king Philip V of Spain. Though ruled by Spain, Sicily is still classified as an "Italian State" and that's where it's filed in the Krause (KM) catalogue.

Your coin, however, is not listed in Krause, because they haven't got around to listing pre-1750 minors from most of the Italian States yet.

"Grano" is the denomination. There were 6 cavalli to the grano, 20 grani to the tari and 12 tari to the scudo, which was equivalent to a Spanish dollar.

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worth keeping ? slabbing?

Keeping, yes; it's certainly not rubbish. Grani from the 1730s are listed at $10 in VG conditon; the price for this one probably isn't too far away from that.

Slabbing, probably not worth it.
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cool thank you for all that its very interesting stuff

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It's from the Italian state of Sicily, which was under Spanish rule(Philip V) at the time.
1 Grano is the denomination.

KM is an abbreviation for 'Standard Catalog of World Coins', by Krause-Mishler(KM).

I can't find a sale listing for that date, but other dates/rulers sell in the $5-$20 range.

I'm too slow on the keyboard tonite.....
But that's ok since Sap explains things better.
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thanks dch very cool info
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