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How To Remove Garlic Stain Tone

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I was with friends dining out and yes, the topic was silver coins. My friend's 90%Ag crown coin inadvertently made contact on top of some spilled raw crushed garlic on the table (part of the menu). He just wiped it off and placed it again in pocket. That was 1 week ago, today the coin has a large stain(tone) on Rev side that is bluish irridicent with some violet & red. it does not look natural and doesn't look good.

How does one remove this tone stain without taking out the original tone? (please NOT blast white, so acetone is really out)

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 Posted 06/07/2010  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure how to respond to this........... don't know if this has ever happened before........ can't wait to see what others say.
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Sorry, but the damage has been done. Toning is toning, and silver sulfide is silver sulfide; garlic is loaded with sulfur-containing compounds, and it's those compounds that have reacted with the surface of the coin, producing an effect that is chemically identical to "natural" toning. Anything that removes the "garlic-induced" toning will remove the natural toning as well.

I'm not sure the AT crowd have tried deliberately using garlic to tone a coin, but it's not something I'd recommend, since it would leave the distinctive garlic smell behind.

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(please NOT blast white, so acetone is really out)

Acetone won't remove toning/tarnish, either natural or garlic-induced. It will, however, remove the organic sulfur-containing compounds from the coin's surface. If your friend had washed the garlic juice off with acetone instead of "He just wiped it off and placed it again in pocket", the coin would not have changed appearance at all.

As it stands, you've really only got three choices:

1. Dip it in tarnish remover. That'll give it the blast-white appearance of a cleaned coin, and is probably the least appealing of these options. You could try selectively cleaning the garlic patches with a cotton swab or fine paintbrush soaked in dip, but you'd need a steady hand. A "partially cleaned" coin often looks even worse than a blast-white one.

2. Leave it alone and see what colour it eventually turns. If you do this, you might want to swish it in acetone so at least all the garlic juice has been removed. This would be my choice.

3. Artificially tone it, either by dipping and retoning or retoning it as-is. I really wouldn't recommend doing this, either, since it has the potential to be both deceptive to the coin's future owners and to be destructive to the coin itself.
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Sap covered it pretty well. One more option if the crown is circulated and not of very high value. Your friend can carry the coin as a pocket piece for a couple weeks, mingling it with other change. A circulated coin should not have noticeable wear after a couple weeks but the toning should be lightened.
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I agree with both of the above.

The ONLY way to remove that now is with the good old acid-thiourea dip....which will also remove a layer of metal. Nonetheless, about a one second dip and a thorough rinse with water, it should be gone. Be sure to do a lot of reading on this topic before attempting it. Many a coin have been ruined using this dip.
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Wow, I didn't know that. There is a frugal living site that encourages you re-use garlic bags as change-purses. And that about looks like silver! I cant make out any of the coins.



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