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The author is quite articulate, and some of his stuff is over my head; but it's a very interesting read if you want to get some in-depth insight into the value of gold.

http://www.safehaven.com/article/17...w-about-gold
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Yes, that is definitely an interesting article. It did what it's disclaimer indicates, it informed me and amused me! Some of it flew above my head too, and I think I nodded off a couple of times. But it is an interesting take on the current world financial situation. I suddenly have an urge to......dang, where's that Gold ATM when you need it?

Steve
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I was just a small kid, when I held my first, (and only), $5.00 gold coin. my dad got it one payday, to sjhow us what it looked like. Then he turned it in and paid the rentor what ever debts it would cover, then.
I have always had the thought, that we should never have gotten off the "gold standard", but bweing just a kid, who was I to ask? To make matters worse, we also pulled the silver from the silver certificates, and they like our 2010 dollars, became nothing but paper. Fiat Money.
I'm not sure what the price of gold was then 1930-31, but it was much lower than now!
I have spent many lond, hard days drywashing in the hot, dusty, sun, with only a tarp, hung in the trees, or brush to serve as a sunscreen.
Gold then was $35.00/oz troy. (That is how gold and silver is weighed). I would still be out there doing that, (if I could drive, etc) my calendar age may be high, but my heart is young, and I would enjoy it! Yes, I still have the gold we obtained. Not much of it, but every gram. It was not the value of the metyal that was the reason for the labor, and satisfaction, more likely, the "thrill of the hunt:!
Yhe article which is linked above, is a very good picture of our present situation, and the operating procedure of the present administration. It scares me, frankly!
You will see the day come when the "retirement check you have puut so many tears into, will not pay the gasoline price, to go after the food you need for your kids, and yourself! We are fast=-moving towards a third-ratye country, and all the sufferage it entails! You laufgh, now, but will you still be laughing 10 years from noiw? give it some thought. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any intention in going for the "gold", but I do recommend silver. the price will shock you, in ten years, as will our economy!
I am noit a scientist, as is the one interviewed by thr author, but the "handwriting is on the wall". Take my word for it!
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I was just a small kid, when I held my first, (and only), $5.00 gold coin. my dad got it one payday, to sjhow us what it looked like. Then he turned it in and paid the rentor what ever debts it would cover, then.
I have always had the thought, that we should never have gotten off the "gold standard", but bweing just a kid, who was I to ask? To make matters worse, we also pulled the silver from the silver certificates, and they like our 2010 dollars, became nothing but paper. Fiat Money.
I'm not sure what the price of gold was then 1930-31, but it was much lower than now!
I have spent many lond, hard days drywashing in the hot, dusty, sun, with only a tarp, hung in the trees, or brush to serve as a sunscreen.
Gold then was $35.00/oz troy. (That is how gold and silver is weighed). I would still be out there doing that, (if I could drive, etc) my calendar age may be high, but my heart is young, and I would enjoy it! Yes, I still have the gold we obtained. Not much of it, but every gram. It was not the value of the metyal that was the reason for the labor, and satisfaction, more likely, the "thrill of the hunt:!
Yhe article which is linked above, is a very good picture of our present situation, and the operating procedure of the present administration. It scares me, frankly!
You will see the day come when the "retirement check you have puut so many tears into, will not pay the gasoline price, to go after the food you need for your kids, and yourself! We are fast=-moving towards a third-ratye country, and all the sufferage it entails! You laufgh, now, but will you still be laughing 10 years from noiw? give it some thought. I don't have, nor have I ever had, any intention in going for the "gold", but I do recommend silver. the price will shock you, in ten years, as will our economy!
I am noit a scientist, as is the one interviewed by thr author, but the "handwriting is on the wall". Take my word for it!
Dick


Wow Dick! I admit to being somewhat envious that you have experienced life during the gold standard to some degree! You bring a lot of perspective and experience to things, and I am glad that you are part of this forum and community.
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I once read "When everybody is telling you to buy gold, that is when you should sell."
I feel it is starting to apply more and more to the present day.
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I once read "When everybody is telling you to buy gold, that is when you should sell."


I couldn't agree more.



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I feel it is starting to apply more and more to the present day.


I disagree here. Sure you may here a blurb on the news or in the paper, but the average Joe still is clueless about gold. I work with dozens of engineers, and not one of them has any interest in precious metal investing. The vast majority of the population is not investing in PMs, so there is still a huge untapped market out there imho. Much of the increase has been due to the decline of the dollar.
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I've read gold went steady below it latest $1.250 record. <<Link Removed by Staff>>
Do you believe it's still due for major price spikes?
Need advice here!
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Do you believe it's still due for major price spikes?


You could ask God. I don't think any mortal can accurately predict what gold will do, but my guess is that it will continue to slowly rise for a while like it has been over the last few years.
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here is another interesting article,
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/go...us-metal-ubs

i especially like his quote "gold does well when buyers are worried about inflation prospects, debt monetization and the debasement of national currencies, and also does well in an environment of heightened volatility and fear about the global economy."
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If gold rises to $1500 from its current level of just above $1200 - that is a pretty nice gain. Of course, if it drops to $800 - that sucks.

I'd bet on $1500 before $800 - hence I'm still picking some up here and there, along with silver.
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i still believe it would be better to think about silver, rather than gold. It is true, gold has more than doubled in the last few yearts, but there are too many countries who hold very large amounts ogf gold, and when their economy goes down, they flood the market with it, and the general price, or value goes down. In other words, it is nice, but it also is like the high risk stocks when you least expect it, the value drops.
Siklver on the other hand is slow, but fairly steady. Their is a lot of silver still to be mined, but the recocses are slowly running out. Then what? It is like the race between the hare, and the tortiose, no need to be in such a hurry. persistance, not haste wins the race.
The thing that worries me, is not that gold will go to $1500, or even higher. The fact that there are so many jobless, and no indications of something to be done to alleviate the situation, by the current administration. More like "won't worry about it "I'll take care of it. I wonder if he has a plan? To ruin a couintry, is best done by putting it into a huge national debt, that it can't recover, and ends up bankrupt, and then what? If you didn't have the job to buy the gold, then what do you do?
While I don't advocate an "overthoow of the government, I di insist that he resign, before he sinks us entirely. We veterans didn't put out lives in the hasnds of the leaders of this country, to see it go to nothing, because of being MIS-LED by a fool! Excuse by expression, but I didn't expect it to happen, at least NOT in my lifetime! Seems I have strayed, again! Sorry.
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... Silver is the "diamond in the rough"...
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Here's another interesting article........
http://news.goldseek.com/Internatio...76702085.php

If there's even a hint of truth here, things are looking scary...
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Any time a commodity is at record high prices, that is not the time to buy.
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Any time a commodity is at record high prices, that is not the time to buy.


I don't really agree. It's been hitting "record highs" over and over again for the last several years without dropping significantly. We could have said that 2 years ago when it crossed the $900 barrier, and we would have been wrong.

The question is, what record high is going to be the last one before the plunge.
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I disagree. Gold record high: 1980, at around $850/toz. Did not see that price until Nov 2007. That record was beaten frequently until Mar 2008 at around $1020/toz. Did not see that price until Oct 2009. That record was beaten frequently until mid Nov 2009 at around $1220/toz. Not beaten until May 2010. The point is, that at each of these records, there was a good sized span in which you would have lost money had you bought at record highs, (1981-Nov07, Mar08-Oct09, Nov09-May10) Even if we only count the last 5 years, you have only about 9 months (15% of the time frame) where you would not have lost $.
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