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2010 Mule Dime In Specemin Sets?

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 Posted 06/13/2010  08:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add laconic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I see some type 2's selling as Mules. Anyone have any info on these? It seems the Type2 is selling at 5X the price of type 1s.

Type 1
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 Posted 06/13/2010  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is it a mule? They all look like specimen dies to me. The T1 reverse and
T2 obverse look less striated that you might expect, is that what I should
be looking at? I don't know anything about these yet.
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 Posted 06/13/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure what to be looking at either. Are the dies rotated or is the picture just like that?
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 Posted 06/13/2010  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dies ar not rotated. First glance would indicate this,. but looking at the pictures, it becomes clear that the reverses are proper. It is the positions in the photos.
My question also is where or what makes the type 2 a mule?
What type mule?
thanks for sharing.
Dick
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 Posted 06/13/2010  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys can't see it? The obverse background is frosted on type 1s and the reverse background is frosted on type 2s
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 Posted 06/13/2010  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can buy frosted either way....at least you used to be able too, I do not deal in NCLT called a rev. proof is all.
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 Posted 06/13/2010  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laconic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It ended up selling for $22 on ebay and no, I did not bid,,,,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT
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 Posted 06/13/2010  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOLOLOL It is raw. Sold by asyn rofl again the uneducated pay thru the nose for NCLT crap. Sorry, but that is simply funny.
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 Posted 06/14/2010  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry coinsrfun, but I'm a bit ignorant. I do not understand your acronym 'NCLT'. Could you please explain.

Also, could you please tell me why I should not be buying from this seller. I have spent numerous dollars, and have been quite please with all but one of the coins that I have received from this seller. One of my favorites actually. Please tell me what I am doing wrong.
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 Posted 06/14/2010  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trying to avoid murky waters here ...

1. NCLT - non-circulating legal tender. AKA (also known as) giftware. In the past there was only the proof, specimen and PL sets now there is a plethora of other "meaningful" coins. At least, proofs, specimen and PLs look like real coins and have some tradition attached to them. (and by the way - I buy NCLT - many of them ... so many that I am a Masters Club member)

2. Frosted thing. Something odd happened this year with the specimen sets. Someone went crazy with the blasting gun, treating dies more than they should (my opinion). The specimen bear twoonie is an example - it looks almost white - just like your "type 2". I am not saying that we have here different dies - maybe it is the same die, before and after polishing. For sure it is not a mule, maybe not even a "type" (being a type would mean being a variety). But IMHO (in my humble opinion) it is highly collectable. If this was a twoonie I would be all over it.

3. Bought a few times from Asyn - never had a problem
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 Posted 06/14/2010  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you t_y for the information, and explaining the acronym. I never have gotten along very well with those (acronyms).

I understand about the 'giftware', and I don't spend much time with those. I do however have numerous sets of proof, cameo, prestige, PL, or whatever they are called this week. They are works of art (as all coins are imo); pieces that to me are what the artist had envisioned they would be, and I cherish each one as such.

And I'll be watching for those over polished die coins. I've never seen a 'reverse frosted' coin before.
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 Posted 06/14/2010  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Something odd happened this year with the specimen sets. Someone went crazy with the blasting gun.


That was my first impression as well. The grit blast is so intense the once jovial 50 cents is now completely boring. NCLT are supposed to be pretty to look at... 2010 specimen set is not no much IMO.

Rikcando, an example of a reverse proof is 2005 $5 maple leaf of Hope:

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I hope this helps.
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 Posted 06/14/2010  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you canadian coins. That is a nice coin, and I am guessing the reverse proof refers to the frosting round the edge with the polished letters. I will have to see one of the same coin in regular proof condition to really see the difference.

I think I'll stick to a specimen set this year until I can get a proof set in hand. Thanks again for all the help t_y and canadian coins.
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 Posted 06/19/2010  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rikcando to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just want to say thanks for introducing me to a different variety. Just had to have at least one so I picked up the 2010 penny today.


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 Posted 06/21/2010  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevindoescoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HELLO PEOPLE>
It almost looks like the mule bust is different? am I seeing things? anyways, looks different to this Kevin. the mule queen is bigger or something. I think the lined finish is the planchet and the die wasn't prepared in the same way(sand blasted). the sand blasting of the die does not make the lined finish, it's the metal sheet the planchet is taken from. maybe they mistakingly used a proof like set die or something like that. I wonder if the busts are different though. that would be peculiar, but stranger things have happened. it's like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory in there.

i think it would be a mule either way, even if the bust is the same. the dies are different. the one type was prepared for specimen coins. the other queen die used on the mule was not.
that dime could be one of the strangest mules made by the Royal Canadian Mint if both is true. I WONDER HOW MANY THERE ARE AND HOW THE HECK DO I GET ONE?i checked that guys account and he doesn't have anymore. it would complete my mule collection if this is the case. I would buy it on speculation. if there's only 50 or something like that this thing could be worth 1000 bucks.
fun bunch of things and stuff thats for sure!
KEV
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 Posted 06/21/2010  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mule is when a die intended for one coin is used to strike another

this is not a mule - if it is, is a mule of what?

(not discussing the desirability of the coin - it is quite interesting)
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