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Unusual 20¢ Error.

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 Posted 06/19/2010  6:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just found this unusual 20¢ coin.

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Reverse is completely normal but obverse has part of a 50¢ reverse in the centre. The 50¢ pattern is mirror image and that section of the coin appears to be very slightly raised.
The rim and outer portion of the coin appear normal. As best I can check it weighs about 0.3g more than a normal 20¢.
My theory is a 50¢ has delaminated and, somehow, the detached portion has been stamped in with the 20¢. Presumably there is a 50¢ coin with a large portion of the reverse missing. If you find it I will buy it. The chances of ever getting the "pigeon pair" would be quite remote I suspect.
How common is this type of error? I haven't seen another.
I do have a higher resolution scan. Unfortunately it does not show up as clearly on the scan as it appears looking at it.

cheers
Jeff

PS. Do you want me to include this with my next discard batch Nancy? [As if.]


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 Posted 06/19/2010  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or is it post-mint mutilation?

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 Posted 06/21/2010  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aren't there any opinions on this coin?

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 Posted 06/21/2010  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be glue residue? I have had something similar with US coins and it was glue.
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Glue (or a similarly transparent resinous substance) was my first thought.
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OK, Thanks folks! I have to admit I would never have thought that it might be glue, but I can see now that it could be.

I was thinking more along the lines of a 'smash' job, done with a cut out of a 50¢, then smashed with a hammer or squeezed into the 20¢ in a vise. I completely missed the bit where Jeff says the area appears to be slightly raised! Duh!

I've had plenty coins with glue all over them, but they've never had any impressions of other coins in the glue, so that was never on my Radar.

Let's wait & see what Jeff thinks of your explanations.

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 Posted 06/21/2010  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done.
I had picked at the edge of the raised area with my fingernail and it felt very firm.
After reading the suggestions I used a fine jeweller's screwdriver and managed to raise a flake. It is some type of transparent glue or resin.
Whatever it is (epoxy I suspect now) it is immune to ethyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol and acetone -tried them all on it.

A much simpler explanation than my far fetched theory. I am a bit disappointed that my theory didn't get some robust criticism. {Of course I wasn't trying to stir a debate. Well....maybe.}

thanks
Jeff
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I could not really get a good understanding fom the image on the screen. I did not pipe up until now, because I could'nt get my mind around how the mint could produce such an error coin With the above comments I really feel that someone has had some fun in his backyard workshop. The 'item' should really be kept by you, anyway, just in case......
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