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Here's another one for the friendly graders. I can't say I'm as big a fan of the Trade dollar as I am of the Morgans and Commems. Anyhow.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The porosity in the left obverse field and on the rim at 10:30 scare me. If the piece is genuine it would likely details grade AU because of the hairlines in the right obverse field.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Honestly the reverse fields look, grainy.
Not a good sign.
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Moderator
 United States
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Excellent pictures. I also have concerns whether this coin is legit. The obverse looks cast, it's very grainy and in the lower right there appears to be the signs of bubbles that are seen in cast coins. On the other hand the reverse looks normal. I can't say if this coin is real or not.
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06/22/2010 08:34 am
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 United States
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Interesting thoughts. Here's what I know about the coin.
It was purchased on July 14, 1956 from a coin dealer in Syracuse, New York for $7.50. Since its purchase, the coin has sat wrapped in the very same tissue paper in the very same envelope it was in when it was bought almost 55 years ago.
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United States
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My guess is that it's a genuine coin which has been "recovered" from ground burial. The cleaning is obvious, especially around the date and left reverse field. It has the classic "we couldn't get the brush into the nooks and crannies" look. The strike is tight, though; the devices terminate sharply at their edges and the details are consistent with a low-AU coin.
The porosity probably happened while it was in the ground.
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Valued Member
United States
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It looks genuine to me, with obverse corrosion (probably from salt water, a lot of these were in canvas bags that got soaked in ships' holds) and cleaning marks on the reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I love thinking about where in the world these dollars have gone.
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United States
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It looks genuine to me, with obverse corrosion (probably from salt water, a lot of these were in canvas bags that got soaked in ships' holds) and cleaning marks on the reverse. I hadn't thought about that aspect, even knowing that most Trade dollars traveled to the Orient. Would silver pit in salt air, or just tarnish? I'm under the impression that it's a pretty noble metal, and not easy to alter past the usual sulfide or bromide reaction. It'd take years in a destructive environment to actually pit the surface, I think. However, I'm quite prepared to be schooled. The beliefs a man should trust least are those he holds most dear.  |
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United States
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Thought I'd update the thread with the results on this one.
No grade. No judgment at all. Refund given. Very interesting.
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No grade. No judgment at all. Refund given. Very interesting. I'd consider that a validation of its' authenticity. It looked funny to them, but they couldn't bring themselves to call it fake. The TPG's are in full-on CYA mode these days, having been busted so often for overgrading and letting altered coins through. |
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