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Valued Member
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I did a search, "tips for searching rolls". I search mostly pennies. Am I really supposed to be holding on to anything older then 1982 for the copper content? I realized that copper has gone up in price but what benefit is there in holding these pennies? Isn't it illegal to melt coinage? Hey, just give me a reason to go buy a new toy! Anyways, opinions on this or any other tips on searching rolls would be appreciated.
I've just been opening the rolls with my daughters and saving only 2009 and 2010 and wheaties. That's it. Edited by johnstac 07/01/2010 9:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is illegal to melt them, but a lot of people (myself included) keep "coppers" for the same principle that one day they will be worth a decent amount. (Like silver coins now) Might wanna get a Cherry Pickers Guide for Lincoln cents. ScoobyDue would be a good person to get a name of a good book. There are a lot of things to be on the look out for between 1959-2008.
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Valued Member
United States
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keep the coppers only if you want to because you believe copper value will increase down the road. might as well get some folders and make a circulated set while you're at it!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't necessarily so you're "supposed" to hang on to them.
I keep them not only because of their copper content (which each one is around double face right now), but I'm also keeping them because of all the people that ARE hoarding them for their copper content (every third roll (plus 4 cents) is a pound of copper). This is going to make it harder for people to fill holes in their albums in the future, which could create value besides the copper content.
I'm already finding it harder and harder to find coppers (and wheaties for that matter).
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Valued Member
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Scooby Due, that makes tremendous sense. With copper on the rise, I could definitely see how these older cents will become harder and harder to find. My favorite collection is of course my Lincolns which I have been collecting for years but from an investment view I definitely see how hoarding copper definitely makes sense. Cheers.
Edited by johnstac 07/02/2010 9:01 pm
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United States
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I have around 50-60% copper in my boxes but I'm not keeping them. I don't think they will allow to melt copper cents anytime soon because this would remove a lot of cent coins from circulation and mint would have to replace that gap with zinc cents which cost them more than 1c to mint one coin. But I do keep all bu I can find also all wheaties and Canadians.
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Valued Member
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Well, the argument to keep all copper is a good one. I went through a box of lincolns over the course of the day and tonight. Ended up with about 8 rolls of copper. I figure if I am going to go through them anyway looking for 2009, 2010 and wheaties, I may as well make the most of it. If at some point my wife goes nuts I may have to cash them in. I figure I have enough hiding places for awhile though. :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, you guys have a pretty good percentage of copper finds. I'm not finding anywhere near that in an average box. johnstac, this video has been posted here before, but I couldn't find it. Food for thought.
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Make sure you are also looking for varieties, errors, etc. Alot of folks also keep BU/AU cents to make rolls. I do this, and have completed rolls of most of the 1960's in AU/BU condition from roll searching this year.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Saving the copper pennies literally cost you nothing and some day they may be worth 5xface or maybe not. But you'll always be able to take them somewhere and get your money.
No brainer. I'm not talking about box searchers here - but just pulling them out of pocket change and the occasional roll.
They don't take up space, but goodness gracious, they weigh a LOT! A little box of 30 rolls is like a boat anchor!
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I want to start hoarding copper but the amount I get in change is a very high percentage. I would have almost nothing to take back to the bank when my search was over lol I do have one roll pulled from circulation of each mint mark and date tho, so I guess thats my little hoard
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Currently, one pound of cents is worth double their face value...that is....$1.46 of pre-1982s is worth $2.90...subtract the expense of converting that metal into money and you probably have a net value of 2x face value. Is it worth it? Beats me; but not to me. It's the date that's collectible to me; not the copper.
Silver is around 18x face value.
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There is a forum that is really devoted to this issue, called realcent. They are obviously at the end of the perspective that values teh copper penny ofr its value as a (potential) commodity. There are even sorting machines developed to separate the copper from the zinc. At the end of the day, when you collect coppers, the loss in investment is simply the time you put in, as a penny is still a penny regardless of its value as a copper. The folks at realcent have posted pictures of pallets loaded with boxes of copper pennies. That is another huge porblem with collecting coppers. Pretty soon, you could run out of room. That is not gonna happen with silver or gold hoarders.
Also, keep in mind that this forum is more numismatic oriented. Dates (meaning to me numismatics) will always take precedence on this forum.
Personally, I keep my coppers. That silver is 13x face is no longer a reality, because you really can't get much silver from roll hunting. If I search a box of pennies, I keep the coppers. Like I said, I enjoyed the roll hunt for something I need numismaitcally, and it's no problem to keep the coppers (most people hold onto wheats that have little numismatic value). In a decent box of pennies, the copper percentage is around 20%.
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I keep all of my coppers. Coins should be collected, hoarded, or spent; never melted! Legal or not, melting will happen eventually. Collecting and hoarding are happening now, while spending is dwindling towards nonexistence. Like Scooby said, it will become increasingly difficult to fill albums and folders. Eventually I will let my son search through my hoard of coppers and nickels. 
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jbuck - I agree about not melting coins, both for numismatic reasons and for practicality.
If you start saving Lincolns as copper bullion, you don't save them for the possibility of melting them down when the ban is lifted. The cost of melting is too expensive. You save them because you know the amount of copper that is in each cent. People who stack silver don't buy $100.00 bag of 90% silver with the intention of melting them and making bars. They do them because they know that every $100.00 FV of 90% silver, for those denominations that are less than $1.00, contains 71.5 Toz of silver. Bullion is a means of storing wealth.
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Exactly, StJoeBlues! 
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