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 Posted 07/02/2010  7:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ichthy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

I'm new to coin collecting and was going through what my grandpa had given me and came across this old looking coin. If anyone knows anything about it or how much it's worth, it would be much appreciated.


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 Posted 07/02/2010  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome.

Unfortunately, this is a cast replica of an ancient Roman coin. A particularly famous ancient Roman coin too: a denarius of Roman emperor Tiberius, also known as a "tribute penny" because of a direct reference to it in the Bible (the "render unto Caesar" passages).

As a "biblical coin", they are very popular with collectors; genuine examples can cost hundreds of dollars. Unfortunately, it also means they are very popular with replica-makers and counterfeiters. Copies identical to yours can be found here and here in the FORVM fakes database.
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 Posted 07/02/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichthy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, well that's a shame. At least I didn't have to purchase it as it was just given for free.
Hopefully one day I'll learn how to spot fakes. Is there a good way to know if a tribute penny is real?
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 Posted 07/02/2010  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, these particular coins have been copied for so long, and by so many different people, that compiling a comprehensive list of fakes and replicas would be impossible. Not finding a coin on a fakes database like the one at FORVM is a good start, but by no means would it be assurance of authenticity.

The best insurance is experience. For me, for this particular coin, what stood out first was what appears to be a distinct rim around the obverse. In my experience I've never seen a genuine ancient Roman coin that had a rim like that, but I have seen it on cast copies of ancient coins. That prompted my initial suspicions and made me look for similar coins on FORVM.

While you're waiting to gain the experience yourself, I'd recommend only buying your coins from an experienced, trusted dealer with a good reputation for spotting and not selling fakes, and who offers an "eternal money-back guarantee" if you ever find out that a coin you bought off them is fake. Definitely stay away from ebay.
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 Posted 07/02/2010  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

I agree with Sap a cash copy.
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 Posted 07/02/2010  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichthy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the advice, Sap. I'll definitely stay away from ebay.
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 Posted 01/13/2011  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CanadianCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the rim hint.For me its the thick lettering & the overall wear looks "purposeful"
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