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Are Nice 2009 Lincolns Hard To Find?

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 Posted 07/06/2010  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought a set of 2009 pennies from ebay and received them today. They're really not very nice. I know, I know, I bought on ebay! What did I expect? I know. The good news is I paid $3 (including shipping), so I'm not out a fortune.

I really just wanted a nice set of circulated pennies - but these aren't very nice. They're spotted and a couple of them have pretty reasonable scratches. I contacted the seller before I left any feedback, and he (she, not sure) insists that they're terrible, straight out of rolls, and refunded my purchase completely. Wow - I didn't expect or want that! But it was kindness for sure.

So, is the seller's word true or false? If I want nice ones, do I really need to buy proofs?
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 Posted 07/07/2010  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few scratched coins, or several, in a new roll of 50 is not unexpected. As a seller I would probably not sell the scratched ones. BUT, there have been some QC issues lately from the mint. Remember, these coins are meant for circulation, not albums. The spotting has been an issue also. And there have been plenty more with spotting issues than scratch issues. You must have seen posts here regarding these issues. There have been quite a few.

There have been posts about these same issues, particularly spotting, with proofs also. I've gotten kinda lucky in that coins that I've purchased, from ebay, have been of mostly good quality, but it's a crapshoot. I think you might have better luck with the proofs. In theory, the best coins should come from the 2 roll boxed mint set Lincolns. $8.95 plus shipping. Unless specifically stated in an auction, you are getting coins from circulation rolls and not the 2 roll boxed set rolls.

Your best bet would be to buy a roll and cherrypick the best coins for your collection, then sell the rest. Or throw them to kids in the street on Saturday afternoon!

Steve
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 Posted 07/07/2010  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You dont need to buy proofs. Which are you lookin for I have some really nice 2nd and 3rd series I'll send ya. They are D mint though. WOLF
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Are nice 2009 Lincolns hard to find?


No not really, All I have to do is open up my desk drawer. I have started finding a few in bank rolls as of late that are in very nice condition. I don't keep them though because I was lucky enough to get boxes of them last year and trade some P 4 D here on the forum.
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I see a lot of them with spotting - like milky water spots, but you can get nice versions if you are patient and look for them. I have gotten my from a combination of circulation, trading with forum members and ebay and have a decent looking set of them. You can always upgrade later - I think they are starting to show up more in circulation.

I recently went on a weekend trip to Corydon, Indiana and got a bunch of 2009-D Professionals (LP3) - some bank around there must have gotten a big shipment. I've also seen a few 2010's already in the wild.

Ken


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 Posted 07/07/2010  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xfeathersx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought the set of 2009 S cameo for 20.00 Beautiful coins...

Check your local coin shop...

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 Posted 07/07/2010  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only searched 5 rolls, and sent one in for grading. NGC 66.
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 Posted 07/07/2010  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My nics don't come in till tomorrow (20 boxes), so I've been getting cents. I pull about 30 '09 keepers per box.
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I got a couple dozen LP3 rolls at the release ceremony in Springfield. I opened two rolls and I considered about 40% to be keepers, the rest were weakly struck, spotted, and baggy. IMO, 3 out of the 100 would have made MS-65 with the bulk of the keepers in the 62-63 range. If you are looking for a nice set of the 2009 Lincolns that may have an appreciation potential, get the copper versions from a Mint Set.
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Interesting. So this seller really is selling me the poor ones of the group... That's what I figured by looking at it, but then the seller seemed so kind in his responses and the way he (she?) handled it.

Oh well, good learning experience. =)

Whytlash, I did search but didn't find anything immediately, which led me to be suspicious. I'm kinda new to this "modern" forum - I've spent a lot more time on the classic. I'll be more vigilant in my search next time.

Thank you, everyone, for your help!
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 Posted 07/09/2010  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lorax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I went through a couple of rolls of 2008 cents once and almost every penny was spotted but not many scratched ones. I've also found some 2009 cents in circulation with the same spots so getting uncirc spotted cents seems really common, I wouldn't be surprised for someone to sell them on ebay. Scratched cents are a different story though, I wouldn't be selling them.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the world of modern Lincolns!

I'm sure your coins were straight from BU rolls. For $3, that's what you're going to get. If you want gem grade quality coins, you're going to have to search for them individually. You can't expect that from a "packaged set". The only way to put together a HQ set from 1959 up is to do it one coin at a time.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nicholas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems both the 2009 and 2010 cents are suffering from bad spotting. I'm not sure if they changed the recipe or what but something is bad. It's an epidemic.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm quickly discovering a completely blemish-free zinc cent is a decent find no matter what year.

Going through the latest box I tossed 2 2009 LP's due to spots. Otherwise have been pretty lucky with 2009-10 (my experience will always favor P mint due to locale). It's the 2008s that have been really bad and finding one without spots on an otherwise BU example is about 1 in 10.

The 2007s are much better with spots but seem to find them in 2 distinct finishes, one with almost proof-like shine to the fields and one that looks like the entire die was steel-wooled. Not entirely clear on the satin finish coins anyway but it surprises me to see them with seemingly 2 distinct finishes.

BadThad confirms my suspicions that if one were to buy a mint roll believing they are holding a roll of practically perfect examples then prepare to be disappointed. For me zinc cents more than anything else have quickly demonstrated to the mission of the cherry-picker.
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 Posted 07/11/2010  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed. I've searched hundreds of Lincoln OBW rolls and finding true gems is very difficult. This is especially true with Zincolns.
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You have not even started your lincoln collection till you try to put together a set of high grade lincolns 83 to present, the lack of quality of these coins makes anything above a 67 from the circulation strike coins a true rarity.

as a piece of advice, its better at least in my opinion to buy rolls when and where you can find them and do the cherry picking yourself.

If you ask around at the banks you could possible come up with some unopened boxes.
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