Another Riddell Counterfeit On Ebay

So are you saying this is a counterfeit of a counterfeit? Was it intended for circulation? for fooling people who were looking to buy a real Riddel counterfeit? When was this copy made?

Interesting information.
This coin was probably in several collections as a real coin until you uncover it for what it really is.

lorax I can see where you might be confused by what I said. It was inadvertent. This coin is one of the perhaps 25 or 30 known copies of the Riddell # 191. All in all a rare item. There are three of the Riddell types (75%) that are UNKNOWN in any collection.

As far as I know modern forgers have not attempted to copy a Riddell coin - YET. I expect it will be done eventually. There are modern forgeries that resemble contemporary issues but they are identifiable by the methodologies used in manufacture. No modern forger has yet adopted purely 1830 practices to make their coins.

One reason I track dates of provenance of forgeries is to establish when individual counterfeits first appeared. I am suspicious of ANY and every "NEW" counterfeit and until I get an accurate test of the coin I list them as uncertain age.

maudry I agree with you completely. This coin likely did sit in some-one's collection as real but that was recently. The coin was identified as a fake very early. It was probably in a junk drawer someplace until a novice collector found it and thought it was real.