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Unknown Coin/Token, Arabic?! | Replica Spanish

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 Posted 07/23/2010  11:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jinos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I wonder if anyone could please help identify this coin/token? It's 25mm in diameter and 1mm thick. It was from my grandmother's collection so I assumed it would be British but the lettering doesn't look English/Latin and the figures don't either!
Many thanks for any help.
Jinnie

Unknown-Coin/Token,-Arabic?!-|-Replica-Spanish

Unknown-Coin/Token,-Arabic?!-|-Replica-Spanish

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 Posted 07/23/2010  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No not Arabic, European, I would think. The first picture is upside down. There's a coat of arms on the centre of the coin.
Could be late medieval, but not sure at all.
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 Posted 07/23/2010  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jinos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Maudry,

Many thanks for your reply, here it is the right way up!


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 Posted 07/23/2010  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jinos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, having uploaded the rotated photo, it's also changed the orientation of the original... so now both the right way up!
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 Posted 07/23/2010  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lettering is Cyrillic, then coin comes from Russia or Bulgaria.
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 Posted 07/23/2010  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, turtleOH, but it's not Cyrillic, just very badly drawn Latin. This is (yet another) example of a very common style of imitation of a historically significant Spanish silver coin, the "Reyes Catolicos" reale of Ferdinand and Isabella, circa 1500 AD. You can see other examples asked about on the forum here, here, and here.

Apparently these replicas are often sold or given away as "pirate coins" at tourist traps in America. Because the letters are gibberish with only a passing resemblance to the letters they are supposed to be copying, this is probably sufficiently deviant from the genuine design to not require the stamping of "COPY" on it to comply with the law.
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 Posted 07/23/2010  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually under the law They would probably still have to be marked COPY because they meet the criteria as an "imitation numismatic item" I think most of them I have seen though have been old enough that they were made before 1973 and are exempt from the requirement.
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Many thanks for the replies and especially to Sap for the information and links... I won't be retiring on the proceeds then
No idea where my grandmother got this, she wasn't a traveller, lived in Wales and died 20 years ago...
Thanks again
J
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