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Cedar Chest For Coin Album Storage, Opinions On Dessicate?

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I've been looking for a heavy chest for the purpose of storing my coin albums, and this morning I stumbled upon a lovely Roos (circa 1940) blanket chest that I had to have. So my question now is this, the coins have been stored in a dehumidified garage, but I'm wary of putting the chest in the garage for fear it will dry out. I'm thinking a few packs of desiccate gel in the chest may do the trick, but I'm fearful of it drying out from the inside. Am I silly to worry, or is there a better strategy?
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I would be more concerned about the aromatic oils from the cedar wood toning your coins in a not-so-eye-appealing manner.
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I've always wondered about that cedar scent. I had a Morgan in a small cedar box from the Grand Canyon and it toned slightly over a couple of years. Slightly dark toning.
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Aw crud. The coins are in cardboard/mylar flips in mylar sheets in binders, but I'd gotten the cedar because I remembered reading that if anything, it will make for attractive toning. Maybe I don't want this chest after all. I'm disappointed because it's beautiful and I thought it would be perfect - it reminds me a lot of my grandfather, who got me into coin collecting.
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If the chest doesn't say "Coin Chest' on it anywhere, I'll bet you could find another use for it beyond coins.
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The sentimental value could be worthy enough to hold something else for you.
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Or maybe use it to hold some blankets?
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lol - I don't need a nice chest for anything but to store my coins, thanks! :D

I got it specifically for this use, I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. And I just got it, so it has no real sentimental value! hehehe

Anybody want to buy a cedar chest for not storing coins in? hehehe...I'd really offer it for sale except that I'm not allowed to yet.

So anyway, back to the topic.. might dessicate help keep the adverse toning down? And since they're in mylar/cardboard flips in mylar pages, might my coins be okay for a little bit - at least until I find something better? Probably not. Crud. There goes a bunch of money I could have spent on coins. :/
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I would be more concerned about the aromatic oils from the cedar wood toning your coins in a not-so-eye-appealing manner.


Is that something to be cautious of based on known prior occurance Bio?

If so;

Clean that chest up delaner, take some nice pictures, an auction may bring more than you have invested in it. Maybe enough to buy a good fire safe.
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Speaking of silica, I been wanting to use that to help better preserve my coins, but I'm wonder if a can of Damp-Rid in the room where I store my coins would be better. Any thoughts? Would do the same job as silica, I'm thinking.
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That chest is a great idea if your afraid of Moths getting to your coins. Ever think if Cedar keeps Moths away, there must be some sort of odor or fumes given off from that wood that is harmfull to Moths? Possibly not the greatest for coins either. Or is it that Moths ar smarter than coin collectors?

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Speaking of silica, I been wanting to use that to help better preserve my coins, but I'm wonder if a can of Damp-Rid in the room where I store my coins would be better. Any thoughts? Would do the same job as silica, I'm thinking.


Any moisture absorbing substance is great for eleminating moisture in the area of your coins. There is one MAJOR problem in their use. No matter what you use, there is a limit to how much moisture they can absorb. Then they become saturated and become not only useless, but could actually become dangerous. By this I mean moisture absorbing substances absorb a certain amount at a certain temperature. Once saturated a rise in temperature could make them dissipate moisture back into the surroundings. The main thing about any substance to absorb moisture is to monitor them constantly and replacee or rejuvenate often.
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I would NEVER purposely put ANY of my coins in a Cedar chest (or any other container like it.
Toning for some folks = damage.

Besides, I would NOT want my Proof coins to "tone" in any way shape or form on "purpose" !....
I figure it'll happen eventually anyway in my Dansco's despite the slipcases....but I'll never do an experiment on them to achieve a neat "rainbow".......with the oils, pines, stains, lacquers, cedars, glues, paints, arsenic, chemicals, etc. etc. etc. used in those chests.....I think it might turn them GREEN & BLACK !!

Lordy Lordy !........ I just wouldn't ever do that.......but that's just my opinion.
Glad you decided not to ! ....... WHEW !! ....
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I store my coins in a medium size wooden chest, looks like the ones you see in pirate movies. Its an old old chest made of local asian hardwood (the wooden chest is locally known as "baul") and the coins havent toned yet after some four years, but then it's wood is not cedar
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lol I have read mixed opinions of storage.
seems like everything damages coins. just outting a coin under a lighted microscope someone said the heat damges the coin and lating on the microscope damges the coin . heck just the air damages the coin while grading it

I rember as a kid years ago at a baseball card trade show watching some dealer showing a coin he
used tissue paper like gloves and showed the coin. the dealer put it in plastic
the guy bought the coin took it out of the plastic to show his friend next to him the coin.
he paid 20 $ for the coin cash walked over to his friend , his friend asked to see the coin and so they looked at it

The dealer said under his breath to another dealer " it's out of the plastic, he just breathed on it and touched the coin and his friend to. Its worth about 5$ now " they shook their heads

i remeber my dad and I luaghing and thought oh boy what a idiot the guy was touching the coin
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I think maybe there are several types of wood around the planet known as 'cedar'.

Australian red cedar in Australia ( not to be confused with Western red cedar), is amongst some of the most valuable cabinet timbers, ranking in value these days as more so than teak. I have not seen Australian red cedar available for new cabinet making in the last 50 years. What is found now has been reclaimed, and that's almost as rare as hens teeth.

I agree all of the above comments that using cedar for a coin cabinet is very risky.

However if the cabinet is of a valuable species of cedar, and is in good condition, KEEP IT! You may have a very valuable piece of furniture in it's own right.
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why not buy a plastic box?
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