What Does A "frosted" Proof Look Like?

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Jays-Dad Pillar of the Community United States 790 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 1:19 pm I came across a coin in a William B. Rosenblum Rare Coins flip. Is this a reputable company? The handwritten notes say that it is a proof coin. My Krause says that the coin was made in Unc and Frosted Proof. The coin does NOT look proof. However, I've seen frosted proof US coins and I guess I might see some resemblance. The coin is a 1958 5 Lirot from Israel. This coin has huge open spaces, most of the design is open. The coin is concave on both the obverse and reverse. Not incuse, I'm talking you could eat a bowl of cereal in this thing. The entire coin looks cloudy. Would a "frosted" proof coin look like this given that it is concave and has huge open spaces? Oh yeah, the unc coin catalogs at under $20 while the frosted proof catalogs at $250! Big difference. Edited by Jays-Dad 07/27/2010 1:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 1:24 pm I buy from Bill Rosenblum regularly, and trust his opinions as one of only a very few I will buy from sight-unseen. You are contemplating a purchase in his area of specialty. If he says it's a Proof, it's a Proof. Edit: My opinion only covers purchases directly from Bill, and I'm unsure from your post if that's the case. Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 3:53 pm Hey, I have one of those It is a nice thick hunk of silver with deeply basined fields. I do remember that the majority of the coin has a matte, not brilliant, appearance but I cannot remember much else besides the stupendous thickness(reminds me of a piedfort). I will look at it when I get home and give you a description of the appearance of mine. Report this Post to the Staff
Angielczyk Valued Member Israel 423 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 5:14 pm Here are a couple of pictures of the coin from the Israel mint aite Here is also a brief description from the commemoratives international website on Israeli Hanukka coins sshowing the difference between the proof and regular coins. Finally there were 97,860 regular examples minted and 2,000 proof oes of this particular coin Report this Post to the Staff
Angielczyk Valued Member Israel 423 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 5:15 pm Sorry forgot to add the description Uncirculated: A Mint State coin struck on a standard planchet. A matte type surface displayed. Usually, issued in larger quantities than a coin struck in proof condition. Proof: A coin which was made with special care. The coins are struck with extra pressure using polished dies. The planchets are specially selected and polished. The coins exhibit a smooth and neater surface in the fields and a frosted appearance on the raised points of the coin. A higher quality strike. In the Hanukka series a small Hebrew 'mem' will appear on the coin. (except the 1958 'Law' coin) Report this Post to the Staff
Jays-Dad Pillar of the Community United States 790 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 6:40 pm Thanks for the pic, mine is totally clouded. Does the mint site say if this is an Unc or a Prf? Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 07/27/2010 9:02 pm Mine has a slight bit of contrast between the menorah and fields surrounding it with the fields being lightly polished but the obverse is a uniform matte surface. I am certain mine is an uncirculated example based upon the appearance of the rim, if the rim on your coin is slightly rounded and not razor sharp then you have an unc coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Angielczyk Valued Member Israel 423 Posts	Posted 07/28/2010 07:29 am I am sorry but it does not Report this Post to the Staff
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What Does A "Frosted" Proof Look Like?