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 Posted 07/27/2010  8:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
i cam across this nickel at work today its most likely nothing but its weird none the less

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added for comparison
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07/27/2010 10:26 pm
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 Posted 07/27/2010  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it lustrous like a normal unc nickel or dull?
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 Posted 07/27/2010  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its lustrous its it shines in the light the you can see the light reflections from the scanner specially on the nicks above his eye and the Monticello building
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 Posted 07/27/2010  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
then how is it black?
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 Posted 07/27/2010  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well maybe not technically black added a regular nickel for comparison
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 Posted 07/27/2010  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an album of just black nics. I imagine it's all, or most enviromental.
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 Posted 07/27/2010  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, it is impossible to judge luster from scans alone. Normally, I would think "environmental damage" and just move on but this is one of the elusive 2010 nickels so it has not been in the wild very long for it to have sustained environmental damage. A dark, but lustrous, appearance can indicate a sintered or improperly annealed planchet error. They key is that the coin must have a lustrous appearance with a cartwheel effect just like a freshly minted normal coin, environmental damage or a coating would dull the luster. The darkness can be caused by leaving the planchets in the annealing oven too long(planchets are heated before striking to soften them) or a fine coating of metal dust adhering to the planchet in the annealing oven which then bonds to the surface of the planchet. Because this happens before the coin is struck the striking of the coin imparts luster to an otherwise dark coin.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what do you mean by cartwheel effect?
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something like this?
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 Posted 07/28/2010  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it could be post mint environmental damage of a chemical nature. Metals can tarnish in an oxidising environment. Oxidising agents are those chemicals that carry oxygen (obviously logical), but other oxidising agents are those chemicals that carry chlorine or sulphur. Metallic sulphides are often very dark or black in colour. Since a nickel is 75% copper, I would suspect that the coin has a very thin coating of (mainly) copper sulphide.
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 Posted 07/28/2010  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A black color is one of the tints associated with improper annealing. Prolonged exposure to the heat of the annealing drum, or a failure to maintain a low-oxygen atmosphere, are what the Mint says causes it.
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 Posted 08/16/2010  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hybrid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Found another one
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 Posted 09/11/2010  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stupidgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious if there is a way to intentionally color nickels black. My younger brother loves finding these, and I'd like to "make" him some black nickels for his birthday :-)

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 Posted 09/12/2010  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just read in a book that the dark color comes naturally from an incorrect alloy mix. Way to much copper is used and colors range from blue, purple, to black. It goes on to say that these nickels are highly collected, but says nothing about added value. Anyone know if this is true?
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 Posted 09/14/2010  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
intentionally color nickels black


A Sharpie will do it!
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