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1984 LMC Die Clash ?

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 Posted 08/01/2010  10:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gutkowski to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is this a die clash ?
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 Posted 08/01/2010  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
squeeze job, PMD
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Thanks Adam
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and also, its die clash not crash
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all fixed lol thanks again
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How do you tell it's PMD and not a die clash?
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My guess would be that the "intruding" characters are incuse on the coin, meaning they were raised on whatever it came from.

If it were a die clash, it would be slightly raised on the coin, because the design is incuse on the die.
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Thr first clue if that that the devices on the highest point of the coin are affected. On a die clash the devices for the deeper part (highest point on a coin) remain untouched during a clash. The dies fields are usually all that are touched during a clash. The devices from the opposite die transfer the edges of the devices to the fields. there are cases where a deep clash can affect the mid die devices, but very rare. I'll post some image to help with this:
Simulation of a die:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._rev_die.jpg
The area where the tallest devices on a coin are the deepest devices on the die. When a clash happens only the fields usually touch.
On a clashed coin note only the areas on the fields are affected and not the deeper devices:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...T_IMAGES.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lash_LP2.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._example.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...e_ndncnt.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...sh_john1.jpg
Now compare these images to a coin that was squeezed between two others in a vise:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...zed_Cent.jpg
See how the higher devices on the coin press against each other. A sure sign of Post Mint Damage.
I mentioned a rare case where mid devices could be affected:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lash_OBV.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lash_REV.jpg
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, this helps a lot.
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