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1863 Civil War Token

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 Posted 08/15/2010  01:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Darryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have one of these that is the indian head with Not One Cent on the reverse. Pretty much a copy of an Indian Head penny with just the not above the one cent.

I am looking in the Red Book and I put the grade at VF-20 EXCEPT that it has a couple of dings on the not one cent side at the bottom rim edge. They can not be seen from the other side. Does this knock the token down a grade?

Not a real valueable token either way, but I am trying to get a handle on this grading thing.
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 Posted 08/15/2010  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In retrospect, having collected CWT's for over fifty years now, I've never seen anyone "net grade" one. Generally, knowledgeable dealers and collectors tend to be conservative when it comes to grading. Unless it's a rare variety, CWT's below VF are more likely to be wallflowers in dealers' cases. The same holds true for damaged tokens.

There are some scarce and even rare varieties of those "Not One Cent" CWT's. (presume yours is copper) Many marked and unmarked replicas surfaced in the 1960's, when the 100th anniversary of the Civil War occurred. Fortunately, these are relatively uncommon in today's market.

Anyone collecting U.S. type coins should really consider adding a few CWT's and HTT's to their set. A buddy of mine is doing just that. After all, these tokens were contemporary forms of nineteenth century currency. Even the Red Book devotes some pages to these issues. Very few coin collectors have any. Yet, values have slowly increased over the years. Twenty years ago, dealers were paying $4 each for commons, whereas $12 is the going buy price nowadays. It'll be interesting to see if collector interest climbs as we move into the sesqui-centennial years.
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 Posted 08/16/2010  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(presume yours is copper)

I am not sure if it is copper or not, it is VERY dark and I scanned it for a picture but it came out swo bad that I didn't post it.
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