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Pillar of the Community
United States
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$12.40 this morning. Let hope it keeps going.  As a collector of silver coins I'm kind of torn.It makes the coins I have more valuable and it makes the ones I want more expensive. It's a Catch 22. 
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Come on Silver!
Daddy's got some rounds counting on you!
You better rise!
TKC!
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Pillar Of The Community
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Big ad in this current issue of CoinWorld, that arrived yesterday, and a fellow is predicting the collapse of the U.S dollar in 5 to 10 years with silver going to $400 per ounce and gold at $8,000 per ounce. Could it happen? With our national debt nothing would surprise me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If that happens...well, we had all better hoard our metals and I for one am not going to disagree with that sort of prediction. I'm not so sure that I would even give it 5 years the way the dollar is moving right now and the World situations. Remember the rapid movement of the Metals Market a couple of months ago and the predictions of $1000 an oz (Gold) by this years end...anything goes in a World economy. I believe that this was also a prediction in the 80's with the books about "The New World Order" - hmmmm
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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Terry The lowest estimate for gold is 2100 $ between 2009 and 2011 The highest believable estimate is 4000-5000 $ allthough some people talk of 10 000 plus
Silver is another can of worms though Historically it was at 15.5 /1 to gold but has trended more around 50 /1 last years so that is a large uncertainty margin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A few hundred years ago, silver was actually considered to be more valuable than gold! I guess they hadn't discovered all the silver mines yet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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quote: Originally posted by fengk
A few hundred years ago, silver was actually considered to be more valuable than gold! I guess they hadn't discovered all the silver mines yet.
Silver was more useful then and therefore more popular and more $. Gee, supply and demand worked then too and remains more useful today until we started using Palladium, etc. for "modern" usages. Gold was then and now considered a "rich man's ore"! I think that the "Hunt Brothers" killed the market for Silver - ;-) Interesting though that a metal that has more uses today, still remains so much lower than it's partner Gold. Don't hear where Gold is used for teeth and fillings so much anymore either - tee hee
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Pillar Of The Community
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The sad part of all this is if the dollar fails that $8,000 wouldn't really buy much now would it? It all could be hype to get us to rush out and spend, spend, spend but I personally would rather have gold and silver than cash in a bank for a whole lot of reasons. I can guarantee you the banks are making a killing with our money buying and selling precious metals and for years the banking industry literally controlled the precious metals market but that is now slowing slipping away from them even though they continue to be a major player.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If the Dollar fails ,, what would you use to pay the 8,000 DOLLARS with ,,and why would it still be valued in Dollars ?
why do you drive on a parkway and park in a drive way ?
You know I think everything has to adjust once it reaches a certian point, it has happened before with the depression and its invariably going to happen again no doubt !!
but it wont be because of metals,, those are controlled by a minority, if they want price increases they withhold supply and increase demand ,,with articles like the one mentioned .
Rick
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Belgium
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It is rumored that in some countries like France 90% of the gold is in family hands Also it is rumored that nearly all the gold is leased out by central banks of europe and only exists on the books ; never to return again Also in the US there has been no audit of Fort Knox reserves to be real or leased out The minority is loosing control and hating every minute of it because it cannot be a coincidence the English sold their gold up to the absolute bottom of around 250 $ 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ageka: I'm not following what you said "... it cannot be a coincidence the English sold their gold up to the absolute bottom of around 250 $". Would you explain please? And, I hope that I didn't take your comment out of context by editing it. Forgive me if I did. Thanks!
Edited by dsking 08/04/2006 3:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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quote: Originally posted by dsking
Ageka: I'm not following what you said "... it cannot be a coincidence the English sold their gold up to the absolute bottom of around 250 $". Would you explain please? And, I hope that I didn't take your comment out of context by editing it. Forgive me if I did. Thanks!
There is some evidence as posted by GATA that governments like to keep the price of gold down because gold price means inflation and they want everybody to believe there is NO inflation When gold went down like 6 weeks ago there was some evidence it was engineered with the help of the English again Point is that all that like to keep gold down are running out of gold to sell ( like the English who stopped at the very bottom ; it probably was a bottom because they had to stop to sell ) It is also very weird that the Rotshild bank (sp) who has been part of the London fix left the club I think last year It is also weird that the ceremony of fixing gold has been abandonned and it now conducted by telephone Fact is that most goldminers have stopped selling gold that is still in the ground and are seriously reducing the paper promisses they sold in the past years ( de hedging ) Hope this somewhat clarifies my remark 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, Ageka...it does make sense to me now. Thank you for your clear and detailed explanation. You're so knowledgeable in this regard that I value your comments. Thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The federal reserve has been standing on top of their currency dung-hill now for nearly 100 years with their chests puffed out like the banny roosters that they are. And now the world is starting to notice that their dung-hill is "actually" a dung-hill. What's going to happen when the world starts dumping treasury bonds. What's going to happen if the bond markets collapse? Just how long do we think we can live off of other peoples' money?
The United States is in for a very rude lesson in math: 5 minus 10 really does equal negative 5. No matter what Ben and his bannies say. "Helicopter Ben" is walking on a razor blade. If he so much as sneezes he's going fall off. IMO, there is superb future in metals--long term. Short term anything can happen with their mojo games.
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Valued Member
United States
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quote: Originally posted by TLS5933
$12.40 this morning. Let hope it keeps going. As a collector of silver coins I'm kind of torn.It makes the coins I have more valuable and it makes the ones I want more expensive. It's a Catch 22.
--Well, to us old codgers who have been at it a while, this makes us tickled pink.!! But, think long term- Long term-- Yet, I know the pain you feel- because when Silver Certificates were being called in- Everyone went berserk to get their hands on Silver. You could not afford to keep all that was still available-and the banks were still co-operating with giving out rolls and bags.-- talk about frustration- We are long overdue for hefty increases in silver coinages. Some one is wise though because for example take a look at how few Wartime Silver nickel-(sets) are being offered!  Dewey
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Valued Member
United States
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But back to the questions on Gold. What we are seeing is a lot of speculators jumping in on what appears to be a good thing- and a good thing it will be for several reasons. The Muslim world according to info from the swiss banking- is demanding gold- most of the rest of the world values gold more than GNP. We here in American have pinned our economy to GNP- but those conditions are changing rapidly. When I still had my accounting practice of 43 years- I inherited or acquired clients from all around the world- and I learned that many many of the Vietnamese got to our country because they had gold. They sewed it in their clothes- now this was when they were running from the Viet-Cong- But of course later our Uncle helped them by the thousands to get here. My East Indian clients were all into gold. My Arab clients were all into gold- So what I learned from this was that the rest of the world thinks in terms of GOLD..Gold is what keeps a people free and independant- and I am quoting none other than our previous Fed Chairman- Greenspan. So yes, we are all concerned and no doubt, what ever happens will be in spite of what any of us can do. Dewey
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