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1835 Yii Colombia Philippine Counterstamped 8 Reales

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Philippines
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 Posted 08/25/2010  07:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One of the elusive Philippine Counterstamped coins in the market is this 1835 YII Colombia 8 reales. The size of this 8 reales is way smaller than the normal South American 8 reales. the only Pearl formation that you can see in this host coin is 5-4-3, and this is due to the date of the host coin 1835.
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China
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 Posted 08/25/2010  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicolashsing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The host coin is hard to find.
There is also countermarked on Chile independent peso.
I like the one countermarked as Guatemala,can you post some of it?
The most rare philipines c/m coin could be the one c/m as manila,I saw it from goldberg actions.
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 Posted 08/25/2010  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicolashsing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw 3 of your rare c/s phlippines coins including a manila c/s on peru on ebay.
Nice coins!
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 Posted 08/25/2010  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barrogak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, I'm a new member to Coin Community, BARROGAK.
I wondered if you have any early Mexico 8Reales with the
Phillippines counterstamp of Ferdinand VII.
Thank you
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 Posted 08/25/2010  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice rare find.
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I wondered if you have any early Mexico 8Reales with the
Phillippines counterstamp of Ferdinand VII.

Yes and I will be posting them continously here if my time permits.
to the community barrogak

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I like the one countermarked as Guatemala,can you post some of it?

Me too nicolashsing, the 1827 NG YII that has the inscription Republica del Centro De America were among my faves. The host coin guatemala is the same as the 1826 Avatar of Barrogak.
Yes I usually sell my duplicates at ebay and sometimes if there are much rarer find available, I tend to sacrifice the ones in my albums in exchange of the proceeds for the rarer ones. But most of the time, as we all do, we always upgrade our collection

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Very nice rare find

Thanks Echizento
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How about the YII counterstamp on Mexico 8 Reales from Iturbide?
I have seen very few. And this one is in really nice condition


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 Posted 08/25/2010  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicolashsing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guadalupe Victoria
That's a nice c/s philippines coin.
Mexico city and manila use to be the same administrative zone.
So philippines has a lot of mexico 8r.
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 Posted 08/25/2010  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pandesalapi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How about the YII counterstamp on Mexico 8 Reales from Iturbide?

That is really a supernice condition Rare counterstamp Guadalupe Victoria
Wow...
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 Posted 08/30/2010  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chops to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where did you get that 1822 coin from? It looks too good to be true. Maybe the way the picture is taken it looks too perfect! It also looks like it has luster or been artificially toned.
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 Posted 08/31/2010  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guadalupe Victoria to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chops

The coin was acquired in an auction in Mexico. It has the right weight, and has the correct edge. So the coin is probably not a counterfeit.
Now, about the counterstamp, I am not an expert.

It is a scan, not a photo and the color is not correct. What appears as a pink patina is luster, the coin is in really good condition, probably AU.
I know Iturbide 8 Reales counterstamped with YII are rare, and in such nice condition, double rare. The question is, is it possible such an occurrence?
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 Posted 08/31/2010  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ColinG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Iturbide looks real, the counterstamp doesn't. I've seen several such coins in the past year or so - genuine coins with a fake YII counterstamp. I'd post it over on Manila Galleon Trade and ask for their opinion. They are specialists in the field.
[ http://manilagalleontrade.webs.com/...18081833.htm ]
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 Posted 09/01/2010  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chops to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say the counterstamp looks very convincing. I looks more genuine that it does fake. The pearl formation is correct but the only doubt would be the left sided ones look a bit mis-shapen which would draw a little suspicion. I would estimate the value if genuine to be around $2000+ only because of the condition. I would say 70% convinced its genuine 30% I would say chance the c/stamp is fake. The host coin is absolutely genuine. Hope this helps.
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