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Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 08/26/2010  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The U.S. Greenback...The $100. dollar bill IS the currency of the world.
There is virtually no place that will not take U.S. money.
We have a very long way to go before the world has one official currency, never mind "cashless".


Partially true but that is fading fast.As other places like China grow and grow, their monitary system will also have to be modified to deal more with the rest of the World. US money will also have to fade. Note how already much of Europe has changed to one type of monitary system. Only the start. Eventually they too will have to change again to a more Universal system and the electronic method is for now the best solution. Computers could and will very quickly tell you how much something cost in China, Russia, Bulgeria, Africa, India and even Tennessee.
It appears a long way off but start looking around. You'll see less and less reasons to use coins or currency. And in many smaller countries it will take longer but is necessary if communications are to continue.
Not to distant a future you'll hear some kid say
"Hey Granpa, what was that stuff you people used to carry called cash? What was it for?"
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 Posted 08/26/2010  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The US $100 bill is also the most widely counterfeited in the world.
So I found that while many places would take American Express checks, they refused the hundreds. Twwenmties fine, but hundreds? Put it back in your pocket mister.
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 Posted 08/26/2010  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Billie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Refused to take hundreds? where?
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 Posted 08/26/2010  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TenSense to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Even in Illinois the toll roads are about 80% cashless. And if you do use cash, there is a fine so you pay double. Illinois is already penalizing people for using cash.


A state of the crooks, by the crooks, and for the crooks. People should picket.
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 Posted 08/26/2010  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the governments way of tracking where every dollar goes. I for one am completely against moving away from "real money" (ok real money was killed in 1964). It takes away any anonymity coin and paper money once provided. Wanna go buy that "toy" for the wife? Get out your card so the government knows you bought it, when, and if you have the funds to cover it. If not how did you get them money? Put you on a list. Think I am wrong? The constitution explicitly stated that our currency was to be GOLD AND SILVER ONLY. No paper because the founding fathers knew that paper money was fake money and would allow the government to usurp power by false inflation by printing money it cant sustain. Plain and simple, this is another power grab by greedy politicians and the Federal Reserve.

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 Posted 08/26/2010  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not the currency of the world. It's an illusion. Physical money will never go away. I seriously foresee the world going into a state of technologically advanced feudalism.
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 Posted 08/26/2010  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSOTL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dunno, we talked about this at work today and although most places could go cashless the guys seemed to think that there would be a big problem at strip bars. They're just gonna have to make at least dollar bills no matter what (it was also pointed out that the strip bars could be behind the failure of dollar coins to catch on. Think about it.)

Where would we swipe a debit/credit card?
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 Posted 08/26/2010  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...there would be a big problem at strip bars. They're just gonna have to make at least dollar bills...
The local "Gentlemen Clubs" in my area have their own "club dollars" that can be bought with debit or credit.

Not that I would I know this personally... I heard it from a friend...
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 Posted 08/26/2010  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Where would we swipe a debit/credit card?

I'm trying to picture a stripper with one of those credit card processors hanging from ..........?

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A state of the crooks, by the crooks, and for the crooks. People should picket.

Your kidding of course. In Illinois people that picket anything could end up in jail for life. Imagine picking to put our govenors in jail.
And this was no joke. If you are in Illinois and fail to use the prepaid IPASS lanes, you have to pay double in cash.

I never park where there are parking meters but someone was telling me those too are going to be credit card friendly soon.
Not sure but I think gum ball machines will be with coins for a long time or people will have to get a credit card for 5 yo 10 year olds.
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 Posted 08/27/2010  03:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A cashless society?

The dream of governments and banks & credit card companies -- but not coming soon.

Eventually, maybe...I shudder just thinking about it...
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 Posted 08/27/2010  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rob ert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should I start collecting old credit cards?
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 Posted 08/27/2010  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnstac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that a cashless society will be implemented as a necessity over time. I remember years ago standing in a line at the grocery store and it use to bug me to have to wait on people writing checks. Today, people are bothered when someone uses cash, especially if they pull out some change as well. People want speed. They think that few extra seconds in line waiting is to blame. Desperately trying to redeem the time they are losing by working longer and harder. The only thing I see that is more important to people than their time is their security. Eventually cash must go away. It will become a liability. And only after credit card theft and identity theft is an epidemic will we forgo cards all together. The new secure protection? A simple microscopic dna strand located on your hand and now you will be forever safe. Now back at the store, just pass your hand under the scanner and everything becomes faster and easier.

Who knows. It sounded a lot more like science fiction when I heard this in the 70's. For today, we collect. I marvel at the detail and beauty of the coins today. I can hardly find a flaw on my mint set coins. Gone are the days of the cello wrapper.
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 Posted 08/27/2010  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add guppie1160 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Refused to take hundreds? where?


A few years ago when I was over in Romania working on a project there were many money changers who would not take 100's I would have to go to different ones to exchange my money.
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 Posted 08/27/2010  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoa, whoa, whao almost all the replies to this thread are based on the American perception of the future.
As I tried to indicate in an earlier reply, these concepts do not apply to (as a rough figure) 90-95% of the world's population.
The average farmer/worker in Asia, Africa or South America doesn't care how an American pays for his/her gasoline, rent, utilities or how they spend their "cash" at a casino. They are more concerned about how to get by day to day and that involves "cash". Be it in coin, notes or (if they're lucky) in black market currencies (more often than not in American dollars).
If the way of the future is in a "cashless " environment then who will take care of the vast majority of the peoples of the world who do not have the luxury of personal financial advisors, credit cards or even bank accounts?




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 Posted 08/27/2010  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waredu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thai-vic,

While I agree that there is an Euro- and Ameri-centric viewpoint dominating here - the fact is that functionally, we are already a cashless society. Something like 99.9% of all money moved is done electronically in some form or fashion. I haven't had to carry cash in years. In fact, I haven't had to carry a checkbook in years now either.

As for who will "take care of the vast majority of the peoples of the world" - as always, they will take care of themselves. The movers and shakers of the world could really care less about the people who do not have cash. Harsh, but true.

RFID chips are so cheap that Wal-mart is putting them in all the clothes they sell. These are the same type of chips currently placed in pets. It is not a stretch to imagine people having these chips implanted (in fact, some people already do as proof-of-concept). This will probably start with some aspect of health care, i.e., "have your history with you at all times so the doctors don't give you something you're allergic to" or "have peace of mind knowing your elderly parent will be taken care of". From that, it's just a short step to having all financial data on the chip as well. Reminds me of the Mark of the Beast, but let's not go there.

As for how the rest of the world gets by? Just like they have always done - barter.
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