Rotated Die Error On A 1963 Franklin.

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Secret Argent Man Valued Member United States 320 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 2:33 pm Take a look at what I just purchased on ebay... looking at the two photos, you can see about a 90 degree rotation on the Franklin. [eBayItem]290444061318[/eBayItem] Anyone have an idea of value? I googled around a bit, can't seem to find anything 'cept that this is "rare" on this coin. Shipped today, hopefully when it gets here it's in good shape. Assume it is but photos leave a little to be desired. (edited to fix the link) Edited by Secret Argent Man 08/30/2010 2:50 pm Report this Post to the Staff

carmykle Pillar of the Community United States 2448 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 3:04 pm I have a copuple that are 10 to 25 degrees off but not like yours. Nice purchase. Report this Post to the Staff
remmy1100 Valued Member United States 380 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 3:24 pm I might make a suggestion. Wait until the coin is in hand before letting the cat out of the bag. Unfortunately there are ebay folks that watch the boards and when someone gets something cool, and let everyone know with a link... all the sudden the coin goes missing and all you get is a refund, only to watch the same seller, sell the same coin with the new premium attributes listed to get a higher bid. Just looking out for you. Report this Post to the Staff
mycrob Pillar of the Community United States 2602 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 4:13 pm I don't see anything of note. The coin is rotated in the holder because someone put it in the holder that way. The obverse and reverse, however, do not appear to be out of alignment. Unless I am completely missing something... Report this Post to the Staff
KisNap Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 4:20 pm I hate to be a buzz kill, but I don't think the half is rotated at all. I think it's just because it's crooked to begin with so it's not a simple up and down comparison. When looking at the obverse the bell on the reverse is pointed down and to the left as it should. You can tell this because the seller then flips the coin holder over on its horizontal (long) axis and the bell is now pointing up and to the left. The top of the reverse is on the outside edge of the holder just like the bottom of the obverse is on the outside edge of the holder. The tops and bottoms match up correctly. Report this Post to the Staff
mycrob Pillar of the Community United States 2602 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 4:32 pm What he said. More detailed than what I'm saying. There is nothing of note here I think. Report this Post to the Staff
Adam_E Pillar of the Community United States 4846 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 4:56 pm i see no rotation either Report this Post to the Staff
dumprat Valued Member United States 460 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 6:22 pm I agree, no rotation that I can see, also not proof like in his title. He says "The coins are raw uncertified condition". Also it is in a Whitman case. But you still got a pretty good deal Report this Post to the Staff
Secret Argent Man Valued Member United States 320 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 9:08 pm You buzz kills! <--- you killed 'im dead! OK so I looked a 3rd time and you might be right. I suppose we'll see when it gets here. Oh, and point well taken about waiting till the coin is in hand, thanks. Edited by Secret Argent Man 08/30/2010 9:10 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jakeW Pillar of the Community United States 689 Posts	Posted 08/30/2010 9:25 pm can't wait to find out! Report this Post to the Staff
Dcreek1968 Valued Member United States 314 Posts	Posted 08/31/2010 09:32 am I'm in with everyone else. Got to this thread too late as I couldn't bring up the ebay auction pics, so I'll wait for pics. Report this Post to the Staff
carmykle Pillar of the Community United States 2448 Posts	Posted 08/31/2010 11:41 am I hope you get it. Somewhere in Rick Tomaskas' "Complete guide to Franklin half dollars", he explained why the Franklin had so many die rotations. Here's one of mine I just scanned; its only about a negative 11 degrees but I think it's neat. I have it in the holder a little askew, but you can still see the negative rotation (that's why in inverted the photos). The coin looks much better than in the photos; should probably clean the scanner glass. Please put up some photos when you get your coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Secret Argent Man Valued Member United States 320 Posts	Posted 09/03/2010 12:57 am So I got it today, and...no rotation. D'oh! It's the weirdest thing, I still can't wrap my mind around it because even in hand it "seems" rotated somehow. I think it 's just its relationship to the corner somehow. Move along, nothing to see here. Report this Post to the Staff
Kloccwork419 Pillar of the Community United States 1359 Posts	Posted 09/03/2010 07:05 am You can open them plastic cases and fix it. They arent sealed slabs. Report this Post to the Staff
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