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What is the best way to retone a cleaned or polished coin and still make have more of a natural look?
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I have been wondering the same thing! I'm interested in what tricks people may have.
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I know they make a chemical or something that is sold at some on line dealers that is supposed to retone coins. I also heard a guy in my local coin shop one day saying that he had success burying the coin in some dirt in a flower pot. I have never tried either of these, although the second option sounds kinda weird. Does either work? I have no clue. Maybe someone will chime in on this and I can learn something too. I would be really curious if the flower pot trick actually works, LOL.
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I suppose the best experts who know how to tone coins are the fakers.
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This has been discussed several times in the past. I do tone down coins all the time. I actually go out of my way to purchase exessively cleaned, polished, buffed, etc types of coins. I've been doing this for a long, long time and some with fantastic results and some not quite so good.
Many highly shinny coins have actually been polished with a real metal or chrome polish. Usually done by someone attempting to show how a auto polish works. Then those coins are just put back into circulation. Some may have been valuable but the demonstrators of the polish have no idea. Some are polished to look new.
Regardless I usually start with a soaking in Laquer Thinner, then in Acetone, then in Alcohol, then in distilled water. Occationally this process has to be repeated if the coins maintain to much of a shine.
Then comes my magic treatment. I place them on a kitchen window sill on a piece of bare wood and allow them to just sit there until they start to look normal. Occationally I pick them up and blow on them and then turn them over. Most eventually start to look like normal coins again. I've had some I've taken with me to a coin show and showed them to some expert type dealers and they could not tell they were cleaned. However, some just end up looking even more horrible.

The main problem with this system is the massive variations in your window and kitchen habits. Not all face South. Not all are in an area of decent to high humidity. Not everyone cooks the same amount and types of foods.
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These are some of the ones being worked on for a long time now. All were highly polished or cleaned to the point of looking like proofs.
All were placed in the same solutions at the same time. All now on the same window.
Note the discolorations on some of them though.
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Thanks for the info!
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And I have no idea why the Large Cent turned Bright Red.
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I place them on a kitchen window sill on a piece of bare wood and allow them to just sit there until they start to look normal.


The quote above from just carl is good advice. Many coins will naturally re-tone this way and it's certainly worth a try. Be prepared to wait a while though, a few months at a minimum.

Some people use sulfur, others stick coins in raw potatoes and bake them, a few even use blow torches but I have never used any of these methods and don't plan to.
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The only variation I would make to the toning method above is that my kitchen would have to have a North facing window. The reason for this is that I live in the Southern Hemisphere!

The Sun rises in the East, and travels through the Northern sky, to set in the West. At midday, the sun is at it's highest in the sky, and the direction of a shadow gives you North.

You can also find North at any time of the day if it is sunny. Point the '12' of your watch at the Sun, and divide the angle between the hour hand and the '12'. The middle line between the two is North.

I am fairly sure that a Northerly or Southerly Sun makes no difference to coin toning!
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... is that the only window in your house?
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Just Carl, the red color on the large cent may be from an ammonia bath.

I may have to try the window method on a few I have put away.
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The only variation I would make to the toning method above is that my kitchen would have to have a North facing window. The reason for this is that I live in the Southern Hemisphere!

The Sun rises in the East, and travels through the Northern sky, to set in the West.

Thanks for that info. Prior to that I didn't even know that you people had Windows down there at all. I always wondered if the Kangaroos allowed that.
And are you aware that if you lived in a house with every window in every wall faced North, you would be on the South Pole?
You should visit us here sometime. You'ld be amazed that OUR Sun does the same thing. (but not on cloudy days)
All just kidding I hope you know.

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The quote above from just carl is good advice. Many coins will naturally re-tone this way and it's certainly worth a try. Be prepared to wait a while though, a few months at a minimum.

Really true for the time frame. I've had some there for over 6 months but well worth it. Theose ended up really great.
One more suggestion too is not to do as I did and soak different types of coins in any solutions. May well have been the reason for some poor results. I still watch flea markets for polished, cleaned or even harshly cleaned coins. Great to experiment on and little to loose.
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