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New Member
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I'm working my way slowly through Breen's Encyclopedia. I'm half way through at the moment (through 20 cent pieces), and I do ebay research, grade review, etc for every section just for my own enjoyment and knowledge. While I agree that Breen is the best book written on coins, it's also chock full of errors and is missing considerable research since it was published over 20 years ago. I see Bowers recently came out with a Paper Money Encyclopedia (I haven't seen it yet, though it's on my want list). Why isn't he involved in an update or total rehaul of Breen? We have a new book on Three Cent Silvers on the market, but our coin BIBLE is over 20 years old. Is anyone working on the herculean task of an update? It would seem it would best be done by an editor who gets the best of each field to submit info for each section (Snow for Indian Head cents, Flortin for Seated dimes, etc). It would seem there would be considerable interest, and the book could sell for hundreds of dollars, just like Breen does right now. Opinions?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Funny thing about the printed word, as soon as it's published, it's outdated. I used to write a lot of technical documents and manuals and no sooner was it published, it needed revision due to technology breakthroughs. Breen is no different. You can find errors in anything off the press that will change the way you look or observe something. Accept the basic knowledge, then continue you study to build an opinion or consensus. Someone will eventually update any publication.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Walter Breen has been dead for almost 20 years and he left enough "dirty laundry" during his lifetime that I doubt if someone would want to continue anything in his name. Numismatics has almost become too specialized to be completely covered by one book. Series-specific books seem to be the new norm and are generally much more accurate and informative than Breen's Encyclopedia.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2448 Posts |
Wow! Did not know that Breen was not well respected by other numismatists. There are an abundance of other resources available now...wait, didn't Bowers and someone just up-date Breen's encyclopedia? I thought I saw a new edition last year.  I'll have to check on that. I absolutely agree that the series specific references are must haves. But you'll have to agree that no matter what is written, it's destined to be obsolete as quickly as the next publication appears. This is probably off target but, I avoided all numismatic organizations when the ANA had all its management problems and missed a lot of the Numismatic News. Rather stupid as I look back. (I just didn't want my dues going to those that appeared to be interested in their own promotions.) I probably missed a great deal of the Breen controversy. When I looked into joining the ANA again, they were deeply embroiled in the Chipoletti (sp) thing. Gotta send in my dues! Sorry for going off on a tangent. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It is not that he is/was not well respected by numismatists, his problems lay outside of the world of coins. He was an avowed pedasterist, founding member of NAMBLA, and a convicted child molester(died of cancer while in prison)- that pretty much outweighs his numismatic reputation...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
2448 Posts |
Ouch! Thanks, I did not know. No wonder no one will touch his work.
I check by the way, the "encyclopedia" I purchased was on Colonial Coins.
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New Member
 United States
37 Posts |
Despite the caveat that anything upon publication becomes soon outdated, I don't think that is an excuse to never publish a new encyclopedia. There are plenty of serious numismatists out there that just don't have the funds, or the series specific interest to buy the not only many, but often very expensive individual series books (what does a set of good Large CEnt and Half Cent references cost? 1000+?) I wonder if anyone has ever read Breen's book on Greek Love (I haven't). It's unfortunate that the sexual politics of NAMBLA overshadow it's other goals. It's for, as WIKI says, "empowerment of youth in all areas, not just the sexual." I believe in this part, as I think there is an extreme glorified later childhood these days that just didn't exist 100 years ago. That 13 year old boy Breen was charged with molesting would have been likely past puberty and an adult in the eyes of the law in 1855. When we deny children rights to vote, to make decisions for themselves, especially in later years when they are 15, 16, 17, we make the transition to adulthood very difficult. But this is getting very off topic. I didn't really mean to bring up any issue with Breen, other than like any researcher, he was not perfect. Take the Mott Token for instance!
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