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Um, What's Going On Here? MS-67 Morgan Question?

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http://cgi.ebay.com/1879-S-MORGAN-D...t_500wt_1154

Take a look at the pictures in this auction. Looks to be the same PCGS MS-67 Morgan, but some pictures (where you can't see thePCGS slab) appear to have another style brackets. Could this be a regraded or crossover Morgan, but the seller is using the old pics?
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09/13/2010 9:30 pm
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That looks like the prongs from an NGC slab
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If I were considering buying it, I would send the seller a message asking for clarification. It is certainly a fantastic looking Morgan!
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those first two definitely look like the new NGC tabs holding it. Must have been a crossover or something from NGC to PCGS because when looking at the closeups they are the same coin because the marks line up with both Obverse pictures
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I'm inclined to suspect it's a simple administrative error. He's a relatively high-end dealer in the real world; this one is inexpensive compared to other of his offerings. This same coin (same photos, as well) is available on his website for $750, if you like it.
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Wow @ all his offerings... just... /drool...

seriously.
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Yeah, they're pretty. This guy bought my old saint gaudens double eagle, lol. Paid $1550 for some reason when gold was only $1000/oz
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They're the same coin. The contact marks on the obverse are the same in both sets of pics, he just used some older (or newer) pictures. Pretty coin!
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I agree that the seller may have tried to cross it from one ngc to pcgs or vise versa.

Just my opinion.

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I'm inclined to suspect it's a simple administrative error.

what is the error you see? All the pictures are of the same coin so trying to learn what you see as an administrative error. Looks to me he had some old photos of the coin in a NGC slab and instead of taking more closeups of it he just used the ones he had and then just showed the whole slab coin (slab and all) in the slab the coin is in now (the PCGS slab) per ebay's rules that you are supposed to show both sides of the slab
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The close ups of just the coin are probably images he took before he sent it in for crossover, and the PCGS images were taken after it came back.
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