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Help! I need to see pictures, or obtain information between the two coins, an 1889 Victorian Florin, and the 1889 Victorian Double Florin. I was told I had a double Florin, advertised it for sale and sold it as such, and the buyer complained that it was not a "Double Florin". I'm including pictures of what I was told was a double Florin. Advise would be appreciated.   010916_1889DoubleFlorinfront.jpg Edited by Buckeye Gal
09/16/2010 2:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Link is not working but...Florin is 29.5mm in dia and weight approx 11.3g.Double florin 36mm and 22.62g.If I'm correct both was design by L C Wyon So I presume the only difference is weight and diameter.Unfortunately I dont have any of them to compare.
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Thank you for your responce. The person that purchased this from me has stated the same dimensions. I'm not sure of the value difference in between the two 1889 coins. The buyer purchased a Florin, with what he assumed was the worth of a Double Florin.
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Let say this coin is VF (personally it think is bit lower)price difference as follows:
1889 florin VF 15 GBP
1889 double florin VF 25 GBP
Im using newest issue of Collectors Coin GB-so as you see is quite big difference.Exchange rate I'm using is 1GBP=1.5USD.Maybe is not always very accurate but you can easily find exchange calculators on web.
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Thank you valdiman. My buyer paid $11.50 US for the 1889 coin I pictured. Since it is a single florin, he didn't overpay by much, then. You agree?
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Absolutely fair price.Nothing to moan about.Problem is-he though about as twice expensive coin for this price.
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Thank you valdiman. I understand his dissapointment, and expressed that to him. I'll try to make ammends, and be certain of all my future sales.
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I need to see pictures, or obtain information between the two coins, an 1889 Victorian Florin, and the 1889 Victorian Double Florin... Just in case you still need to see it, and for future reference for anyone else who might need it, here's a florin and double florin, side-by-side and rescaled to roughly the same size. Pictures derived from Tony Clayton's website.  The double-florin is on top, the florin is on the bottom. To me, there are a couple of differences you can use to tell them apart, even if all you can see is a picture and don't have any size / weight data. Obverse: on the double florin, the D in the word DEI is almost touching the crown; there's quite a gap on the florin. Reverse: the little ornaments on top of the four sceptres (the thistle, harp and orb-and-crosses) are proportionally much larger on the double-florin. Based on that, the coin you've pictured is definitely a florin. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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THANK YOU, Sap! That helps me out a lot! I'm curious now to check out the other coins being offered on ebay, to see if they have made the same mistake I did. Probably not, but I'm going to go look.(sheepish smile) |
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Just to add a tiny detail to what Sap said. Sap's examples are dated 1887, the first year of "jubilee" issue. On both florin and double florin "1" in the date is Roman. While it stayed Roman throughout years on a florin it turned to Arabic in the later issues of double florins (actually they switched to Arabic "1" already in 1887). Gal's coin, which is 1889, has a Roman "1", on a double florin it would have to be Arabic. (In addition to other differences pointed out by Sap) Illustration included:  |
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Another one.Ornament in the middle of reverse is different shape(on Saps pics).Rays in double florin are squre shape,on florin-more like diamond.
Edited by valdiman
09/17/2010 05:08 am
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New Member
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Thank you svslav, and again valdiman. I am currently trying to tell another ebay seller that he has the wrong one listed for sale right now. This will help me convince him, I hope. |
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Here is a 1889 double florin that my father gave me some 50 years ago. You can clearly see the Arabic 1 in the date   |
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Thank you Angielczyk. I am really learning alot.
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