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 Posted 09/19/2010  10:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Warack60 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am looking to start a collection of Ancient Roman coins, and was wondering if anyone knew of any reputable dealers. I'm looking at a price range right now of $40-70, being a poor college kid and all. I've looked through ebay and noticed a lot of cheap roman coins, but have to imagine they are fakes. Also are the people who sell bulk uncleaned Roman coins worth buying from? Any suggestions on a specific coin and/or dealer would be extremely appreciated.
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 Posted 09/20/2010  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say that it is inevitable that you will find the 'vcoins' website. If you want a good guide on what to pay for an Ancient coin, that is the first place to go. Like all other areas of numismatics, there a lot of shonks who want to sell you fake coins, especially on ebay. The 'vcoins' site has over $20 million worth of coins for sale at any one time.

You have come to the right place (the CCF), if you want to have friendly discussion on ancients and numismatics generally. There are one or two really knowledgable folks on ancients on this website.

It is far better to go to a reputable dealer for ancients, and to keep all of the invoicing from your purchases. That way, if you need to sell them, you can prove the provenance of your coins, very important if they are to go to auction!

Ancients have been my passion since the mid '70's, and I collect Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Indian, Chinese and South East Asian coins. I must admit I only have about 200 or so, other parts of my collection are far more numerous.

Way back in 1970, I was in the British Museum Department of Coins Medals, looking at Byzantine gold coins. I was just about as happy as a pig in mud! Never sell your tools of trade, (books), even if you have to sell your coins. I feel very fortunate that I kept my complete set of the Roman Imperial Catalogue (RIC), when I sold my collection to put up a deposit on a house.
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 Posted 09/20/2010  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Regretfully, ebay is a terrible place for a beginner to start learning about ancient coins. While there are plenty of honest sellers there, you're all too likely to find a fakemaster, shyster or seller of overhyped junk if you just buy coins at random.

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...noticed a lot of cheap roman coins, but have to imagine they are fakes...

It's a common misconception that all ancient coins are rare and expensive. There are spme classes of ancient coins that are quite cheap an plentiful. Late Roman bronze coins for example, from the period 250-400 AD, are very common, often being dug up by the bucketful in Europe and the Middle East.

Uncleaned coins can be bought for a dollar or two each but are a bit of a "mystery grab bag" as far as what you might get, and you need skill and patience to unlock their true glory. Such coins that have been properly cleaned and identified typically sell for as little as $5 to $10.
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Thanks for all the help guys that VCoins site is extremely helpful. Anyways I've been going through that site fairly extensively and have narrowed it down to these 2.

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=6153
http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/forum...roduct=14182

Wondering which one you would choose and why?

Thanks a ton to everyone who has helped
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 Posted 09/20/2010  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, the first coin, at 2.5g, is going to be fairly small. It also seems like there's quite a bit of wear around the lettering, which to me detracts from the eye appeal.

The second has better eye appeal, but it's silvered, not silver (silverplated, basically), as was common for the later period.

I tend to prefer the look of actual silver, at least for ancients. For instance: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=6132 if it hadn't sold would be in your price range. Or, sticking with the Sep Sev theme: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=6134 or http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=6137 Sadly all sold, but IMO 3 good examples of silver denarii. There are quite a few others from the same period which also, to me, have quite good eye appeal while remaining affordable (on their list it's Pertinax - Sev Alex).

If you're willing to spend a little more, Trajan is reasonably affordable in high grade: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=3958 Hadrian even more so: http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/aegea...Product=4906 although that's for a somewhat less appealing (IMO) coin than the Trajan
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 Posted 09/20/2010  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, if I wasn't clear - the above are my ideas of what I would do if I had $50ish to spend on roman imperials at vcoins. Your tastes might be different than mine, and of course you should go with what appeals to you!
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