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As I may have stated on the 'Welcome' forum, I am new to coins, and since I've got no interest in being a collector, I've got no idea about them. My collection, at least the one I am referring to, contains a lot of coins. Most are from the end of the XIX Century (around 1870-90) or the first half of the XX (1910-50); yet, there are other coins from the 80s and 90s, and even older ones, from the XVIII Century (1763, I suppose, is the oldest). I'd like to know if anyone could tell me anything (approx. value, would be most suiting) regarding the following ones: XVIII Century: I've only got three coins from this period, and they are all in terrible conditions. -The oldest, is rather unrecognisable - one side has got a very interesting symbol, approximately like a calligraphic 'XX'; and the other one, contains a 'III' on the top, the words '[H]eller', '  cheide', ' unt7', and the date (which I suppose says 1763 - yet, the '1' is missing, and you need to guess the '3'). Colour, I'd say, may have been silverish or brownish, but now it's getting green. -Then there is a very similar one, but smaller, and the date and words are impossible to understand, except for the '17--'. However, it looks as if some cleaning would help it. -A silver coin, from 1791, with apparently a face in the middle, and around it the words 'Louis XVI Roi des François'. The other side seems to have a figure and more words, out of which I only get ' egne de lal '. XIX C: - 5 Francs from 1875, with the words 'Liberte Egalite Fraternite' and a figure. It's in perfect conditions. It is rather heavy. - Portuguese coin from 1868 in perfect conditions (or, at least, it would be, if I cleaned it). I don't think that there is any price on it. - French Coins from 1856, with the words 'Napoleon III Empereur'(and his face), and 'Empire Français * Dix Centines*' plus the figure of a bird, on the other side. Very good conditions. I think I have at least three of these, from different years. I've also got one of 'Cinq Centines', but it is not very good. - 2 cent coins, dated 1864, from Belgium. They have got a lion on side, etc, etc. Very good conditions, all of them. -'Deutsches Reich Pfennig' from 1874, with the number 2 in the centre, and a symbol on the other side. Quite good conditions. Also, from 1876, with the number 10; and 1895 with the same number, but different size. And from 1902, one of '2'. In worst conditions, I have one from 1865 of '1'. - Then there is a huge coin, with a perfect face in the middle, and the year 1874. The words and numbers are impossible to read, except for something that seems to say 'Paris le 16 Mars 1856'. It is rather old, and it's colour has gone away, making the reading rather difficult, perhaps with good lighting and a magnifiying glass I'd be able to read it correctly. Anyhow, the face in the centre is simply amazing. -1/2 Fr. from 1898. Many of these. XX C: - 'Limited edition' coins from Argentina, of values $5 (contains a reference to the constitution on one side, dates 1994) and two different of $2 (one contains the face of Borges, and is from the year 1999, the other one the reference to the constitution). -Many 'Marks' and 'Pennies' from every decade of that century. - My favourite, is a small collection of coins from Russia, before the time of the Soviet Union (they go from 1869 to 1922). - A very nice looking coin, which reads, 'Gustav VI Adolf Sveriges Konung', has a crown on top, and on the other side reads, 5. It is from 1955. I imagine it is from Sweden. Maybe a post like this isn't allowed, I am terribly sorry if that is the case, and ask for my sincerest apologies. Also, I am sorry foir not posting pictures, I'll take them later, when I have more time. Thanks, B. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi BlueCrow
Your post is fine !!
and some of the coins that you have described ,,will more than likely be Identified ,, giving a value is another thing altogether different,,
without good clear pics of both sides of the coin to gain an Idea of the grade and condition,, a value will be very hard to determine.
I will leave the Identification to those who are much more knowledgeable with foreign coins,, which it appears yours are,,
and welcome you to the forum !!! Post a couple of pics at a time ,,when you can !!
Rick
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08/12/2006 4:33 pm
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United States
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Whatever you do, do not clean any of them to attempt to read dates. Leave them as they are.
Just wanted to get that in before you got too far. It will devalue the coins.
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United States
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Good thinking Irish !!! I had intended to mention that and missed it !!
Thanks for picking up the ball where I dropped it !!
Rick
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United States
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Yup, good advice Irish. There's nothing wrong with your post, and there are going to be people far more knowledgable on these coins than me who will come along and identify them for you. Value will be determined on basis of their grade, and it's hard to tell you the value of your coins sight-unseen.
How are these coins being stored? If they are touching anything with PVC in them, move them immediately. Store them in Mylar 2x2's or, in case you don't have them, plastic food storage bags are OK for temporary storage.
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Australia
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While I am not an expert in other world coins, you can count on me when it comes to Russian coins. You can check out on omnicoin to see various Russian coins that I have. Last time I remembered, it was over 400+.
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New Member
 Argentina
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Hi! Thank you for all the warm replies, they have all been quite very helpful.
I will take some pictures today, since I have a little time left, later in the night, and I will post them tomorrow.
I am more than very grateful regarding the advice of not cleaning the coins - if you wouldn't have told me, then most probably I would have tried to do so. Luckily, you prevented me in time. Also, thank you for the tips on storing them, I'll try to find some of that Mylar during the week (so far, I have stored my coins in that little red tin box [I call it 'tin', but it is actually a safe; either way, it's no surprise my coins are not getting any better with time).
By the way, gxseries, I'd be more than interested in seeing those Russian coins you have : )
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I kept pestering my wife to help me find that other box I have, and finally found it some minutes ago. There's nothing very interesting, except for a coin that seems very old (much older than the ones I have mentioned so far), and is in Latin - perhaps it's a Roman coin? (I higly doubt it, but still...); maybe, what I like the most, is a coin from 1770, and seems to be from the Spanish empire.
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Thank you for everything,
B.
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 Australia
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Hi ho BigCrow, welcome to the forum! For information, you've come to the right place. Nice collection you've got there. I'll deal with your items a century at a time, otherwise I'll end up with a really long post, too...  1700's: #1 - sounds like a German States (or perhaps Austrian) copper; "heller" is a coin denomination, used particularly in Upper Germany (Saxony, Bavaria and Austria); "scheidemünze" is German for "fractional coin" or "small change". The monogram would help identify it further, as there were dozens of states that issued similar coins at around that time. Can you post a pic of it? #2 - Hmm, "don't clean coins" is always good advice - but sometimes cleaning is necessary for identification purposes. Either way, it's not likely to be valuable, unless it happens to be a rare type hidden under the gunk. Post a pic of this one, too, if you can. #3 - It's French (but you probably figured that part out!  ), early revolutionary period. At the time, France was issuing several silver coins: 15 sols, 30 sols, 3 livres and 6 livres (also known as 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 1 ecu). The denomination for the smaller ones is written either side of the angel-figure on the reverse, but if you can't read it, then we'd need to know the diameter. If you can find a mintmark, that would help, too - it should be around the 4 o'clock position on the angel-side. (edited to tidy it up a bit) Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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08/13/2006 01:00 am
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Australia
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Continuing my ID's. If you're unsure about grading, post a pic in the "grading practice" part of the forum and you'll get some opinions. 1800's: #1 - France 5 francs 1875: there are two mintmark varieties for this coin: the mintmark is below the wreath. Catalogue Value for 1875A is $10 in VF, $18 in EF. #2 - More information required - metal, size, inscriptions, that sort of thing. #3 - Value depends entirely on condition, year and mintmark. There were over a dozen mintmarks issuing these coins throughout the time of their issue; some of them are quite scarce. The mintmark is located below the stick the eagle is perched on. #4 - Belgium 2 cents 1864 - two varieties of these coin; "normal 1864" CV is $1 in Fine, $5 in VF and $20 in EF. There is also an "overdate 1864/1"; if the "4" looks funny or like there's a "1" hiding underneath it, then it's basically worth twice as much. Again, if in doubt, post a pic or scan. #5 - Ah, Germany: another country that went way overboard on mintmarks. And they're tiny, too - one on either side of the eagle on the obverse, at 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock: 2 pfennig 1874: all mints A through to H are possible; CV averages $7.50 in Fine, with "H" mintmark the rarest ($20) and "A" the commonest ($2.50). 10 pfennig 1876: much the same answer as above. 10 pfennig 1895: for some reason, that one's not listed in my catalogue for that year; probably an error on the catalogue-maker's part. Sorry. 2 pfennig 1902: also not listed; double-check the date on that one, please? 1 pfennig 1865: that date can't be right; "Germany" didn't exist until 1871. #6 - sounds like it may be a French medal rather than a coin. Need to see a pic to be sure. #7 - bit ambiguous where it's from - I assume it's Swiss? It has a figure holding a spear and shield with a cross on it, and the word "Helvetia" in tiny letters at the base? In that case, CV is $1 in Fine, $2.50 in VF and $15 in EF. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Australia
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Now for the 1900's:
#1 - Argentina 5 pesos 1994, commemorating the National Constitution Convention: CV $15 in Unc.
Argentina 2 pesos 1999, for the 100th anniversary of the birth of Jorge Luis Borges: CV $8 in Unc.
Argentina 2 pesos 1994, commemorating the National Constitution Convention: CV $8 in Unc.
#2 and #3 - if you post details of anything particular there you're curious about, we'll see if we can help.
#4: Sweden 5 kronor 1955: CV $2.75 in EF, $6.50 in Unc. The catalogue dates from 2004, before the price of silver skyrocketed. This coin is made of silver, but only .400 fine; even so, at current silver price, it's actually worth $2.75 "melt".
If you're wondering where all this info is coming from and want to read it for yourself, the books you want are the "Standard Catalog of World Coins" by Krause Publications. One phone-book-sized volume per century (five books covering 1601 to date), they can be pricey for a broad-based collection like yours, but they're invaluable for a "darkside" collector. If you're at all interested in collecting world coins, or even selling a lot of them as a part-time dealer, consider purchasing these books. If you're not really that interested, try your local library - they should at least have the 20th century volume on the reference shelf for you to peruse.
Unfortunately, there isn't a comprehensive web-based catalogue around yet. Give it a few more years...
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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BlueCrow, use this link: http://www.omnicoin.com/user_view.aspx?id=gxseriesAnd under "Show coins from: All Countries", change the "All Countries" to Russia. There are about 400+ unique Russian coins, so use them with your identification. I believe I have most of the common ones, and I am starting to get hold of the scarcer, if not rarer ones. A tip: Hit "Year" to rearrange the coins to chronological order. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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