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Adding To The French Ecu Collection - A 1716-W Louis Xv

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I had my eye on this 1716 French ecu for a few weeks and was just waiting for payday. Last night I took the plunge.

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The majority of these early Louis XV types are "reformations" that were overstruck on Louis XIV ecus. This one was struck on a new flan.

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 Posted 09/25/2010  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Unusual, very nice.
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 Posted 09/25/2010  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a very nice coin.Can you tell us how mych you paid for that?
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 Posted 09/25/2010  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice. Once my wife and I finish our post-revolutionary France type set, we will be moving to pre-revolutionary.

Very nice piece.
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and if I had to guess on price, $300-400 range?
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710 euros.
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I'm the reverse. I started collecting pre-revolutionary France (and French Feudal States) with the idea that I would someday I would move on to collecting post-revolutionary France.

The later 5 Franc pieces are temping - eventually I will start collecting them.
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 Posted 09/25/2010  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea I just picked up a really nice UNC 5 Franc. I posted about it... it was a steal imo.


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gorgeous 5 Franc piece ianmprice!
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Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about t360.....the French addiction....ecus. Beautiful!

I'm more interested in the revolutionary and post revolutionary coins. But a couple of Henri IV hammered demi francs have crept in. I expect the ecus will be soon to follow.

Right after I finish the Napoleonic two franc series....
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Wonderful coin...I have also noticed that most of the ecus from this early period of Louis XV were overstruck. Question if anyone can answer...Did Louis XIII produce ecus? I've seen the demi-ecus from his reign, but I also know that the coinage was changing at that time from that of the way his father Henri IV had produced silver coinage. I don't have the Krause 1601-1700. Thanks.
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Yes Louis XIII minted ecus from 1641 to 1643.
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Here are some scans of the 1643-A (Paris) Louis XIII 1/2 ecu and ecu in my collection.

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 Posted 09/30/2010  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heywoodfloyd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks t360...the full ecus of Louis XIII do not seem to be readily available...even the Ecu a la meche longue of Louis XIIII; I'm having problems sourcing much of a choice of coins...but I'll tell ya, the Ecus have me hooked.
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 Posted 09/30/2010  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take a look at the https://www.cgb.fr site if you want to see a LOT of French coins. They don't show any silver Louis XIII ecus in current inventory, but their recent #44 auction of royals shows a few, so you'd find many more if you browsed their older auction catalogs. It looks like 1000+ euros for one of these ecus in the VF range. They're pretty easy to deal with. Over the past couple of years I've bid in their auctions and occasionally won.

You might also find something on https://www. ebay. fr (sorry I can't force this address in any other way without an auto change), which is where I picked up the Henri IV demi francs.

I've found that the older French coins price a lot like US gold, in that there's not much of a premium for scarcity until a coin is truly rare. There are so many types, periods and mints that obscurity is the rule rather than the exception. I try to focus on southern mints like Bordeaux, Bayonne, Perpignan, Toulouse and La Rochelle.
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I found some Louis XIII ecus listed on ma-shops.com,

theirry DUMEZ has a 1643-A point, better than the one in my collection,
OGN Numismatique has a 1642-A, and
Alan CHELAIN has five, including the 1643-D (Lyon) which was the only Louis XIII ecu not minted in Paris.

Of course you can likely can do better on price by patiently watching the French auctions and bidding on them. It might take a while to get one, though. Since they are the first milled crowns of France, there seems to be more collector interest in them than for some of the scarce later types (such as the Louis XIV "Parliament" and "Flanders" issues of the 1670s-1680s).
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