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1955-S Roll Search Results

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On a trip through Sacramento I stopped at a B&M and picked up a nice group of BU Lincoln rolls. All tubed, from late 40's through 58. The group included a small hoard of 20 rolls of 55-S. I love buying 55-S because they are generally nice quality with lots of varieties. What I usually do when I get a hoard like this is look through for varieties, and then sort them by approx grade. I sort in the order of Gem, Select, Average, and Junk. My criteria for Gems is to have no field marks on obverse and no major distracting marks, while Select and Average have more and more field marks of distracting marks. Junk have spots or fingerprints, etc.

Here's what an example roll looked like:

1955-S-Roll-Search-Results

Out of the 20 rolls, one full roll had a small Cud on the 9 of the date, a "Blob-9" variety. They look like this:

1955-S-Roll-Search-Results

About a quarter roll had die chipouts on the 9, first 5, and the S and looked like this:

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About a half roll had a partial BIE, really a B_E, of two varieties. They look like this:

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And like this:

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There was one lamination error that looked like this:

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And one minor struck-through wire on the 9 of the date that looked like this:

1955-S-Roll-Search-Results

There were 1-3/4 rolls of "Junk" coins, mostly ugly roll ends, fingerprinted or heavily spotted coins. Here's an example:

1955-S-Roll-Search-Results

There were about 7-1/2 rolls of "Average" coins. Here is an "Average" Obverse:

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And here is an "Average" Reverse:

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There were 4 Rolls of "Select" coins. Here is a "Select" Obverse:

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And here is a "Select" Reverse:

1955-S-Roll-Search-Results

There were about 3/4 roll of "Gem" coins. Here is a "Gem" Obverse:

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And here is a "Gem" Reverse:

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Finally, there were about 2 full rolls of a mix of RPM #2, RPM #3, RPM #4, and RPM #5. Unfortunately no RPM #1 in the group. Also there were a few of the RPM South that I've pictured here before, and some minor RPM West. I'll take some high mag photos of some of these later and post the results.

Well, that's what I do with groups of rolls like this. It's always fun to look through a nice group of rolls and find some neat things in them!
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there is no Cud in that 2nd picture, it looks more like a die chip or lamination, Or possibly damage.

i like that gem, though,
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how much do these rolls go for? I assume you get them from local coin shops? I would think these coin shops go trough the coins to look for these RPMS etc.. so how do I know before I purchase something like this, they havent been cherrypicked?
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Do you plan on sending any of the "Gems" in for grading?
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BTW, the pics look great! What set up do you use?
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As I remember these cost $20 each roll, though they might have been $22. You can't really tell if rolls have been looked through by previous owners, but there are a few telltale signs I look for when deciding to buy:

- How many examples of a roll are there? The more, the better as I've found it much more likely that groups of rolls are original versus singles
- Are the coin edges bright? When people handle copper properly, by the edges, the coins turn dark on the edges eventually.
- Are the coins in random order? If they're all heads-up, facing the same way, the roll has absolutely been searched. Even if they are a bit jumbled, if you see even 3 coins in a row all same orientation and facing same direction, the roll has likely been searched. I count the number of heads and tails coins as I go through a roll, and if it's a long way off of 50% I know the roll has been searched
- How many coins in a roll have fingerprints? Seems like an obvious one, since of course an unsearched roll won't have fingerprints.

I'd estimate that only 10% max of coin dealers actually look through the rolls they get in. Most don't have the time for it, aren't interested in varieties, etc. I always ask of course, which is why I can make the estimate. More (perhaps 20%) go through looking for MS67RD coins, and unfortunately most of those dealers tend to mis-handle the coins (dumping them out in their palms is the most common infraction). I've had several dealers who I've asked a price on a roll open the roll, dump it into their palm, and start fingering each coin. Total disregard for the coins, for the customer, for the hobby. I pass when I see that, and depending on my mood I will even tell them why.

My setup is the same as I showed a while back, a Nikon D5000 on a PB-5 Bellows. The lens for these shots is a Novoflex 100mm f4 bellows lens, but I get about the same quality from other lenses I have. Two Ikea LED lights with partial diffusion. All mounted on a small microscope stand. Very compact setup. I control it with the Nikon Control Pro 2 software, though with the bellows the camera is fully manual so it takes a bit more work to get everything right. But the software gives me live view on the screen, which is key to getting a good shot.

I don't plan on doing any TPG grading. The only time I tried sending in coins for grading, they smudged each coin in the same spot (obverse field) I assume by pushing the coin into the holder prior to sealing it. 5 years from now those smudges are going to be huge carbon spots. That was my first and last attempt at getting coins graded.
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