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Cleaning Coins, Properly

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 Posted 09/25/2010  12:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up a box of pennies after work yesterday to go through. These coins must all have been from a fountain, they are the dirtiest coins I have ever searched!

I found a 2006 magnetic cent I'd like to clean up. The dirt is caked on and there are dried spots of something wet - I think many of these coins spent some time in an outdoor fountain.

I've heard room temperature water with a very mild soap, and for ancients I've heard (i think) olive oil. I'm not one to clean coins but these definitely need some treatment, especially a valuable coin like that 2006 magnetic cent. Any tips or suggestions on how to safely proceed?
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 Posted 09/25/2010  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Myself, personally wouldnt clean any coin no matter how valuable
or dirty.(That of course maybe just me)..
If a coin is valuable and really dirty no matter how it is cleaned
it is going to lower the value.
If it was my coin I would leave it alone and try to find a better copy..
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 Posted 09/25/2010  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So back to my question - Any advice on how to do it safely?
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 Posted 09/25/2010  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add neweden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sigh,
There is no safe way..
Remind me not to buy any coins from you...
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 Posted 09/25/2010  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Splatto, you can try a distilled water soak. Also, I'm not sure if you can get pure acetone where you are (not fingernail polish) but you could also try that.. it will remove anything organic and not harm the coin. Search the forum for "acetone", there is a lot of good information and advice on it. One thing to remember is to respect the chemical - gloves, no open flame, etc (more on that in the threads you'll find searching, too).

neweden, there are ways to do it safely and not harm them. There are definitely more wrong ways, and it is indeed usually best to leave them be, but if you just have to have the gunk off there are things to try.

Good luck splatto, let us know how it goes.
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 Posted 09/25/2010  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks xshift, great information. I'm going to do everything I can to avoid acetone and only try that as a last resort.

It's so unfortunate finding a valuable coin that's only four years old covered in so much of this sticky crap
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 Posted 09/26/2010  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dottir to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This topic is one I'm interested in too. That box of coins my neighbor sold me had a lot of dirty coins. I had to keep washing my hands. I have a large soft paint brush (like pastry brush) that after I layed all the coins out on a table cloth I swept to loose debri and stuff off, but the coins were still dirty and some gunky. Makes me worry a bit about hygeine and health when I don't know if those little black pellet like things were mouse droppings too EEK People do keep containers of old pennies & coins for years and years in open containers, in work rooms, old drawers, or basements sometimes, so little critters can get in them. I really REALLY want to wash mine, but don't. Yet.

Even bank rolls coins can be very dirty. You don't know where coins have been. Maybe wearing surgical type gloves is wise when looking through coins? and mentioning they are dirty when passing them on?

By the way, I find a LOT of coins since they switched to zinc and such in the last decade or so seem to get dirtier and more stained etc than coins before then. Many have what look like finger prints or fabric texture marks. I much prefer the older copper pennies as better "keepers" of condition.
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 Posted 09/26/2010  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uncle al to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Food for thought, engine oil is used to keep two metals from rubbing together or scratching each other, so therefore if a person was to use olive oil, and that would mean keeping the coin in olive oil continually while trying to clean it, would it be possible to clean a coin and not mark it in any way. I suggest that you try this method on a coin of no value and see if it does any damage to it. I would be interested in the outcome if you try this. take care.
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 Posted 09/27/2010  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guadalupe Victoria to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should all check out Bad Thad's posts in this forum about VerdiCare and VerdiGone, two products he commercializes through WizardCoin I think, if you are going to clean coins.

On a second note, should you or should you not clean coins? They are your coins do with them what you like.

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they are the dirtiest coins I have ever searched!

In this condition unless it is a megarare coin it is worthless, so what are the ethics? If you sell them or pass them on, say and state it clearly, they are cleaned. In your case it is probably a better term to say "conserved" potato potatoe.

The first step in the conservation of the aforementioned coins is correct, distilled water, room temperature and a little soap, change water every other day and gently brush the coins, a soft brush, not a tooth brush!

In regards to using olive oil-motor oil-mineral oil it is a loooong process, do not expect quick results, I insist look for Bad Thad posts.
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 Posted 09/27/2010  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a fairly rare coin.
I'm not sure if BadThad's product can help as verdigris is not the problem.
The problem is a sticky substance with dirt caked on it.
The coin will be sent for grading once it's been cleaned
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 Posted 09/27/2010  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Put a coin in a cup, add white vinegar just enough to cover the coin, sprinkle 4 - 5 piches of table salt, swiss around and the coin will be cleaned.

Some of the blacker spots may remain but will be a lot lighter in color. Most pennies will be brought back to their copper appearance..

Always try a penny that has no large value first to experiment with...Good Luck...
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 Posted 09/27/2010  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guadalupe Victoria to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The coin will be sent for grading once it's been cleaned

Then let them do the conservation, I have read in NGC site that for a price they will do the conservation if it is possible...
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 Posted 09/27/2010  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not a fan of the vinegar approach as it can eat the enamel of the coins.
The bright red copper colour is present so that is not what I'm trying to restore. I need to remove the sticky substance from the coin
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 Posted 09/27/2010  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rodime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
googone? I don't know how abrasive or caustic it is, and what it'll do to the finish, but it always seemed to me to be quite harmless to everything except bubblegum.
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 Posted 09/27/2010  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GooGone works as a decent goo remover for someone not wanting to mess around with pure organic solvents.
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If the substance is organic, you could try freezing the coin then carefully removing the offensive gunk. Never tried this, just throwing it out there.

good luck

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